From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Feb 19 21:12:44 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRhG7-0003CM-OH for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:12:44 -0800 Received: from web62509.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.75.101]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRhG3-0003C1-Ct for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:12:43 -0800 Received: (qmail 35175 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Feb 2008 05:12:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bxDmY73thv9TUu5B7fxp8w9cQqQlJRICTAjjtJPPovKvksIHSO0a4Ap/Q8D0XY8ZtEB+cMcFs01QsdY6tV/it5WDECqrsVlzLwNbdbnzDLbZUm2y7YrMxmDw+WQgJZ2EUCfoHlgSpH8PpT1zLWjKHukNjdY51MPZjO9uBuXfT7o=; X-YMail-OSG: zxr3_UYVM1leUvaDV8rD2chuZ20O0FpwyJLudU4t6uhox16iRfRbhi4SJsHjqw_daZ59fREjisR9AY3P1Desz4WlQQu_MEZFrN5JAKjp7PPvL7gfanys1OP_Fek. Received: from [63.24.80.20] by web62509.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:12:32 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:12:32 -0800 (PST) From: Liam Dalton Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Nth root of unity To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <96f789a60802190906p6bc091a7odd871a3b157fc29b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1399173222-1203484352=:34547" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <853626.34547.qm@web62509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 365 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: iamdalto@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1399173222-1203484352=:34547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit oiro'a, indeed! I need to review the lujvo section...but for problem of naming "vector", perhaps have it referenced to physics terms such as "force" and "direction." however, since vectors occasionally have purely mathematical purposes, even in number theory, this may not hold water. Michael Turniansky wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 11:28 AM, komfo,amonan wrote: > On Feb 19, 2008 10:12 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > [...] "ka'orelcimdyna'u" is > > > > parsed as "ka'o relcimdyna'u", the sumti "an imaginary amount of > > complex numbers". > > Rather, the nonsensical "i complex numbers", where "i" is the quantifier. Well, that's what I meant by "an imaginary amount". Not any unspecfic amount, but specifically, an "i" amount of them. Just wanted to save space typing, but now we had to waste three times the amount of space :-) > > > [...] If you WANTED to add cmavo to a lujvo, you have to do it > > > > with the aid of "zei" ("lujvo glue") in between. > > > This is true for "ka'o", but not for cmavo in general, as many cmavo have > their own rafsi. > No, it's true for ANY cmavo. If you wanted to add a rafsi OF a cmavo (if it has one), then you wouldn't need the zei. There, now the imprecision is on the other foot. :-) --gejyspa --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1399173222-1203484352=:34547 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit oiro'a, indeed! I need to review the lujvo section...but for problem of naming "vector", perhaps have it referenced to physics terms such as "force" and "direction." however, since vectors occasionally have purely mathematical purposes, even in number theory, this may not hold water.

Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 19, 2008 11:28 AM, komfo,amonan wrote:
> On Feb 19, 2008 10:12 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote:
>
> > [...] "ka'orelcimdyna'u" is
> >
> > parsed as "ka'o relcimdyna'u", the sumti "an imaginary amount of
> > complex numbers".
>
> Rather, the nonsensical "i complex numbers", where "i" is the quantifier.

Well, that's what I meant by "an imaginary amount". Not any
unspecfic amount, but specifically, an "i" amount of them. Just
wanted to save space typing, but now we had to waste three times the
amount of space :-)

>
> > [...] If you WANTED to add cmavo to a lujvo, you have to do it
> >
> > with the aid of "zei" ("lujvo glue") in between.
>
>
> This is true for "ka'o", but not for cmavo in general, as many cmavo have
> their own rafsi.
>

No, it's true for ANY cmavo. If you wanted to add a rafsi OF a
cmavo (if it has one), then you wouldn't need the zei. There, now the
imprecision is on the other foot. :-)
--gejyspa




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