From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 31 12:01:15 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JgPFr-0007CY-Gh for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:01:15 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JgPFm-00073n-Uc for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:01:15 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1651355fga.0 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bedBZWdLzNdj7VscMK3zut//M6yauRIpxnXunxDJOqU=; b=r/FP2L+8IkTMY1sLLGZkY0ojEOKE6pcelcx5U8rFSB+M5qxvWbfrtPwnTQhHCwLFMuNl38iQa+RmTyTKLj5y0iNgND9CoKHvkcPyI5bsgf9Ki1lTfhywtPj9r+WnQrrc99SpWUL+8r3NMH/3gNcvpLSUiGFQ9vJG5GlZQi99TAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MPzOSO39GmbjSxsT+Zrbr+BNfHpPtGkIyr/4TJPS4rGJmIjrrfTUtLDMLO3cyu+/0XcC2cySmql+UY98uT1YA85Qo2YA7XKfMcaMQPCYMYlyS4iTpdTLFF3H+l22DJGm3yZ2px2jEa41mBNRaktNdGRcfizZQ8QXROobBbRUsV8= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr4692189fgb.75.1206990069205; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560803311201x1190fa3j788d108a5c8e16bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:01:09 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo bo In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0803311148p417ecf63k11d54ffc589b18c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0803310712u446302b6j9a3b70fe3f68091c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311120m7b5175b7l6207e3cb495adca5@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0803311148p417ecf63k11d54ffc589b18c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 410 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 3/31/08, Vid Sintef wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > {ca} indicates simultaneity, not sequentiality. Did you mean > > {gi'e ba bo}? > > Yes. > But I also wanted to mean that the event of prami is simultaneous with "now". > Maybe {nau} is what I need? Yes, {mi do pu nelci gi'e ba bo nau prami} would work. > > .i mi do ca ke ge pu nelci gi prami > > Why {ke}? Isn't {ge} good enough to delineate the scope to which {ca} functions? The official grammar requires {ke}, but this is probably a remnant of the obsolete LALR(1) requirement, so it can probably be dropped. mu'o mi'e xorxes