From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 28 08:12:53 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1NKf-0003h7-2M for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:53 -0700 Received: from web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1NKX-0003gh-NR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:52 -0700 Received: (qmail 8022 invoked by uid 60001); 28 May 2008 15:12:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KnX26c0bdhs5e6KnDoTNBeaKcsKvb+84aNs1VYWWZLU9uNV0PHn/GyKFGzxZrGq4vKV7jvyPlzXA5sRK+fXvHo9RRm1kbnZOoocw4W4nIo0Ja86iMzrVLPznH+mk/6Z4RRfIg9qeNJKP6rT9SYYQnFeGTdv/1a4mYCA+T7KkmH0=; X-YMail-OSG: 6XL_GQEVM1m4LjWPFa90W8v..kcxQZG1vms2TFE4KjvZdfsebUlnp7zOhRoIo2v1l8lri3lgJBayQLsFZGZ8Lm035B0i_g5pQZE5sN1Jv2z8cpbiquj9mUILwp8- Received: from [99.229.22.193] by web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:29 PDT Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban-beginners] "What is Lojban" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-ID: <136898.6891.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 609 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Can anybody help unravel the confusion surrounding "What is Lojban" We appear to have two different texts under this name.  The first is a course authored by Bob Le Chevalier which can be found at http://www.lojban.org/no/publications/draft-textbook/lesson01. This does not seem to be finished, but is superb nonetheless. There are in-depth explantions for just about everything, but written in a way that anybody can understand.  The excercises are great too! Question: Why wasn't it completed and why is there no reference to it in the Lojban for Beginners section of the Lojban website: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lojban+For+Beginners&bl ? The "What is Lojban" referred to on the above web page is something quite different. This is an introductory booklet written by Nick Nicolas and James Cowan, certainly not a course. Question: Why was it given the same title? mu'o mi'e .andrus.