From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Sep 21 10:27:17 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KhSiL-0008OM-2g for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:17 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.241]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KhSiG-0008Nu-3N for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:17 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1108028rvf.46 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=rW5QFBQFMLukws4OZv1722xVdxYtEBc01zbOX2Ry26E=; b=W8JlmdoxvRz1T3uL1lbVxU7Fh3Oy56QvhWvA2duFo73RD9M9+XEHbQGF92wkJFslRy I7baRdTM5RxdtNj5L+RwDOe4R727zvd6rnyuJAbZ9ZtjFbF0NAK00fL6A+pIBNVDTsry AGqgPsxeyl0NL1VLMdBQgaZDoYK1VaYuOHEIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; b=npVhtq2fPrMTDjGJ8x64aDC2rqTC5FDnlFeR7fSUupvx1K2zgid7C0oimtJYhJ7ZN4 ZL+h/DfZlAJALCl+EdVerAvNijYSKo4D3Wgjgd35QK9/fUzVmHDUai5myP4VRGMYByAN yh0ALARiKW/vUXX9ew09h9yfmVyhehgzfJJ8E= Received: by 10.140.201.8 with SMTP id y8mr1386439rvf.148.1222018030969; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.1.10.195? ( [64.183.26.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm4644296rvb.6.2008.09.21.10.27.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48D683EB.4050404@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:27:07 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban-beginners Digest V2 #146 References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zachary Spector X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 866 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: logicaldash@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Some place structure categories, off the top of my head: klama-type: to, from, via klama kla come x1 comes/goes to destination x2 from origin x3 via route x4 using means/vehicle x5 cliva liv li'a leave x1 leaves/goes away/departs/parts/separates from x2 via route x3 pluta lut lu'a route x1 is a route/path/way/course/track to x2 from x3 via/defined by points including x4 (set) dargu dag road x1 is a road/highway to x2 from x3 with route x4 (x2/x3 may be unordered) plipe pip pi'e leap x1 (agent/object) leaps/jumps/springs/bounds to x2 from x3 reaching height x4 propelled by x5 farvi fav develop 'evolve' x1 develops/evolves towards/into x2 from x3 through stages x4 dunda-type: origin, item, destination dunda dud du'a give 'donate' x1 [donor] gives/donates gift/present x2 to recipient/beneficiary x3 [without payment/exchange] pleji lej le'i pay x1 pays/compensates/remunerates/[rewards] payment x2 to recipient/payee x3 for goods/services x4 vimcu vic vi'u remove x1 removes/subtracts/deducts/takes away x2 from x3 with/leaving result/remnant/remainder x4 bevri bev bei carry 'bear' x1 carries/hauls/bears/transports cargo x2 to x3 from x4 over path x5; x1 is a carrier/[porter] benji bej be'i transfer 'send' x1 transfers/sends/transmits x2 to receiver x3 from transmitter/origin x4 via means/medium x5 cusku cus sku express x1 (agent) expresses/says x2 (sedu'u/text/lu'e concept) for audience x3 via expressive medium x4 danlu-type: specific item, general category danlu dal da'u animal x1 is an animal/creature of species x2; x1 is biologically animate ractu rabbit x1 is a rabbit/hare/[doe] of species/breed x2 palku pak pants x1 are pants/trousers/slacks/leggings [legged garment] of material x2 jubme jub jbu table x1 is a table/flat solid upper surface of material x2, supported by legs/base/pedestal x3 The similarities tend to evaporate when you get to x4 and x5, but then, you probably won't use those places much anyway. Check out the various themed lojban decks on Quizlet; often, words of a similar category have similar place structures. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI1oPqPgBrU7+vSEgRAl+1AJ0Y3jwasljUckwbKSnCOIp0tvlqagCffULR +h//lKq7S4Ur0ZL7xUMQq64= =QzTR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----