From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 29 07:36:43 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkJrf-0002AW-Db for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:43 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.234]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkJrY-0002AF-A2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:43 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c37so981841wra.26 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8Qks67uH3MTw4zvMrilfd6/jMIsJsV27BZG15vl6eQY=; b=dORPI5nQjL0wF7NXD+mieK3P+SQLRQmefLCo0JPna/15aMFspjZWp/UIiQM+a5rKsb 6Va6/Y9StZgEUJW4fQAcJTHlWnuaiYJtabXD2ciiHdHp+D46OORuVpTJNLD21utrEhhd KqASOSbgvam5Iyem+fpMY2eSfXEpiQSx8wvCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=RIcZlF6j98/J/9mSfwOIiL7pz8hGegZKCpTVIKtkPWnNcUcekg6q5I2iL+jUxgZ6CZ cznntSZmb70fLR3PqxQ/rAS5D56s8UmsMJYOjnZUZmesRxktIS/jEpsNkK0crN2WrbBg 7zX14dHvcNP5n9mbvsqgpdkuKx/LFK4+VBgvM= Received: by 10.90.49.8 with SMTP id w8mr5708096agw.46.1222698994928; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.84.19 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5627810d0809290736y50db405cx3fc0e0be36a4387f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:36:34 -0400 From: "Donald McLean" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban forms of names In-Reply-To: <20080929141830.GA18902@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5627810d0809290632u629019f9h654c8f96105a59d8@mail.gmail.com> <20080929141830.GA18902@sdf.lonestar.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 894 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dmclean62@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 29 pi'e 09 pi'e 2008 la'o fy. Donald McLean .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. >> One of my children has a name that starts with an 'H'. As near as I >> can tell, the only use of this sound in Lojban is the apostrophe to >> separate two vowels. What, then are the most common approaches for >> handling this situation when converting names? > .skamyxatra > > An 'H' at the beginning of a name is almost always Lojbanized into an 'x', > which makes the sound of a voiced 'H' (the sound doesn't naturally exist in > English, so I'm not sure how best to explain it). I lived in Germany for two years so I am actually familiar with the sound. I don't think that my daughter is going to like that answer though. She's already miffed about losing the final vowel in her name. Thank you, Donald