From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 04 11:53:52 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxRyK-0000Kx-0q for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:53:52 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxRyG-0000Ki-QX for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:53:51 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 30so1330103nfu.46 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:53:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6B+gzorr+D466KA2nFtao7Iqx7WJ0aYBqsQ6wpyQZpI=; b=jdXftriyrV94Ti+3aM4TuH1+cOeHriywZPnZedHPpf6fvWrCMUQSL5vcdVDxhItwdA xHJrUjVu/MhvUUpw4C1QLyby3QMzVxQa7pwf0pr6OnIBrtlhgPAj0J5wIK2SAEgGYoM7 oSnHtPkLXSzSeUx7cY2hLnP1YayfbTzvpDYr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XyFz1PShwfFkj5j6AaczvdL7VxZOP8jJfSyR2yq4A1PntyhHLwKs7GmQPVH2A/yY9H zRrJ5580ot/CBYDXP3OgzhZCNnUMjkiuISP8TiTtbVQeEZJMIVoOs7eI0WyZoD6Hzev/ EJXWOfMQSPQOkSoyknX+vqloqLz2SwlFxd+DI= Received: by 10.210.66.1 with SMTP id o1mr2091164eba.193.1225828427141; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.142.8 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:53:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5715b9300811041153m7269b346qe5b408a8b6b78a10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:53:47 -0500 From: "Luke Bergen" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: misaligned words in the LRG In-Reply-To: <20081104193233.GX20021@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_92844_20800243.1225828427137" References: <5715b9300811041057s6e34d854y119d22944640fc6a@mail.gmail.com> <20081104193233.GX20021@digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 984 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_92844_20800243.1225828427137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline also, is that page a copy word for word of the "complete lojban language" book I found the link here: http://nemorathwald.com/aboutlojban/learninglojbanwhich claims that the link I gave earlier is an online text version of the book. Is that true? It surprises me that a book that they sell is also provided as an e-text. Also, why when I search for the CLL book on amazon do I only get http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Lojban-Language-John-Cowan/dp/0966028309/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225828326&sr=8-1for almost $200?! Is amazon just jacking up the price for some reason or are http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Lojban-Language-John-Cowan/dp/0966028309/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225828326&sr=8-1 and http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The%20Complete%20Lojban%20Language different books? On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:57:21PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > > coi rodo > > > > I'm reading through the lojban reference grammer found here: > > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=196&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar > > but it's annoying me that the text is showing up misaligned for some > > reason. eg. > > It's not just you. We've been wanting someone to redo the online > refgram in a decent source format for Some Time. > > "A decent source format" is defined, at least in my head, as > something that can be used to generate many different versions, > including a nice-looking plain text version. stx2any and texinfo > are my two favorites for that, but there's a bunch of other > near-plain-text markup langs. There's also LaTeX. > > -Robin > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/*** > http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > ------=_Part_92844_20800243.1225828427137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline also, is that page a copy word for word of the "complete lojban language" book

I found the link here: http://nemorathwald.com/aboutlojban/learninglojban which claims that the link I gave earlier is an online text version of the book.  Is that true?  It surprises me that a book that they sell is also provided as an e-text.

Also, why when I search for the CLL book on amazon do I only get http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Lojban-Language-John-Cowan/dp/0966028309/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225828326&sr=8-1 for almost $200?!  Is amazon just jacking up the price for some reason or are
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Lojban-Language-John-Cowan/dp/0966028309/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225828326&sr=8-1
and http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The%20Complete%20Lojban%20Language
different books?

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:57:21PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> coi rodo
>
> I'm reading through the lojban reference grammer found here:
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=196&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar
> but it's annoying me that the text is showing up misaligned for some
> reason.  eg.

It's not just you.  We've been wanting someone to redo the online
refgram in a decent source format for Some Time.

"A decent source format" is defined, at least in my head, as
something that can be used to generate many different versions,
including a nice-looking plain text version.  stx2any and texinfo
are my two favorites for that, but there's a bunch of other
near-plain-text markup langs.  There's also LaTeX.

-Robin

--
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/




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