From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 06 11:16:41 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyALR-0004xl-Ii for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:16:41 -0800 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyALK-0004wp-Ev for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:16:41 -0800 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@svalbard.freeshell.org [192.94.73.10]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6JGK7d000097 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:16:20 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id mA6JGKin018302 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:16:20 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:16:20 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: consonant diphthongs Message-ID: <20081106191618.GA20105@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5715b9300811061107s10620b1fq6564c03712beda7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5715b9300811061107s10620b1fq6564c03712beda7d@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 994 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 06 pi'e 11 pi'e 2008 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > in the word "djica" (desire), how would you pronounce that first part? I > can't seem to make the two consonants really separate without inserting an > "y" type sound between them. Otherwise it ends up sounding kind of like the > "dg" in "judge". Is this ok? .skamyxatra "dj" is supposed to be pronounced like an English J (like both the "j" and "dg" in "judge") as that's what you get when you combine the two sounds. Similarly, "tc" is pronounced like English "ch". mu'omi'e la'o gy. Minimiscience .gy. -- mi pu klama .i mi pu viska .i mi pu fanva fi la lojban.