From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 18 17:56:07 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOjN1-0008Kv-1R for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:56:07 -0800 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOjMx-0008Ke-Qq for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:56:06 -0800 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0J1u24E007600 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:56:02 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id n0J1u2Lj025538 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:56:02 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:56:01 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: grand mother Message-ID: <20090119015600.GA20344@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5715b9300901181745u56b49054x9c01719af38b9c34@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5715b9300901181745u56b49054x9c01719af38b9c34@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1225 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 18 pi'e 01 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > For grandfathers you could have pafpa'u and mampa'u but there is no rafsi for > "mother" that ends in a vowel so can it be done without having the much > longer sounding pafmamta. .skamyxatra No. > And in the case of maternal grand mother the situation is even worse since > you can't double consonants (eg mammamta). A "y" is inserted wherever a double consonant would otherwise occur in {lujvo} formation; hence, "{mamymamta}." mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- le do cizra notci cu kairgau mi lo nalselcme kamte'a