From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Feb 22 10:42:04 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LbJHA-0004KP-Pj for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:42:04 -0800 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LbJH7-0004Jp-0q for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:42:04 -0800 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so660475ywq.46 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:41:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0rrc4KQgrs23y7bTxq9rFIMS9/Rfiz1T+of4AdjceF8=; b=vmv4Z2Q4gFMpEHaeb3FNIiahnj6M/HPeNDfEI+PYthC1g2LpT4Nv7K8lOMpX9mfF0j uOlXVHI38AA+xN6hdxBg58/6oUk8qSvIdNCfTgsxH5TIakVyb8CSQ5JtiesweSIzDev2 27HNwj2nDC2gSHq+CmoNfDGHxEBwxLpDkx3r4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=r5BtJ1XaAvT37phTFBRdMaXWsz6cs0Lm9js4faasdJj8oYUwaqidNffID3K3GJUYys n7gWD1FNBufEbhjcX3mvPwzZ7NKWgpl059p/STqlCsDe9iXPIOW4S7dcpFiMb750ksPW VWkuK+jlCiqxF/gIX3XMt/AQ+wwlSl53JZ8dY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.93.1 with SMTP id t1mr477740vcm.3.1235328119619; Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:41:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090222181534.GA21895@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5715b9300902220805m114bff5dlafd5826a24951987@mail.gmail.com> <20090222181534.GA21895@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:41:59 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300902221041l7a70138dn4950f159922220b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nursery rhyme From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ec82cc03ebb0463863dba X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1355 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016364ec82cc03ebb0463863dba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was afraid of this. If I make it rhyme and/or have the same number of syllables as the english version it tends to become un-grammatical. *sigh* oh well. I was wondering if it would be legitimate to say "mu'i mo" as if to say "motivationaly because of ?what-relationship?". I guess not. and I fat-fingered that part, it's supposed to be "go'i mu'i do ____ mi" which I think is still not grammatical for the same reason that you mentioned earlier. So it should be "go'i mu'i lonu do ____ mi" though that sounds a little clunky with the extra sylablles. - Luke Bergen On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 22 pi'e 02 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. > > jersi > > jersi > > mi jersi do > .skamyxatra > > You need to separate sentences with "{.i}." > > > mi jersi do mu'i mo > > That should be "{mu'i ma}." "{mo}" is the {selbri} interrogative, while > "{ma}" > is the {sumti} interrogative. > > > goi mu'i do ____ mi > > I'm not sure what you're trying to attach "{goi}" to here (or even if > you're > using it remotely properly), but "{mu'i}," when used as a {sumti tcita}, > must > be followed by a {sumti}, usually one that uses an abstraction. In this > case, > it seems that you want "{mu'i lonu do ____ mi}." > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > mi na se finti fi tu'a lo vi munje > > > > --0016364ec82cc03ebb0463863dba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was afraid of this.  If I make it rhyme and/or have the same number = of syllables as the english version it tends to become un-grammatical. = ; *sigh* oh well.

I was wondering if it would be legitimate to say &= quot;mu'i mo" as if to say "motivationaly because of  ?w= hat-relationship?".  I guess not.

and I fat-fingered that part, it's supposed to be "go'i mu= 'i do ____ mi" which I think is still not grammatical for the same= reason that you mentioned earlier.  So it should be "go'i mu= 'i lonu do ____ mi" though that sounds a little clunky with the ex= tra sylablles. 

- Luke Bergen


On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Minimis= cience <min= imiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 22 pi'e 02 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusk= u zoi skamyxatra.
> jersi
> jersi
> mi jersi do
.skamyxatra

You need to separate sentences with "{.i}."

> mi jersi do mu'i mo

That should be "{mu'i ma}."  "{mo}" is t= he {selbri} interrogative, while "{ma}"
is the {sumti} interrogative.

> goi mu'i do ____ mi

I'm not sure what you're trying to attach "{goi}" t= o here (or even if you're
using it remotely properly), but "{mu'i}," when used as a {su= mti tcita}, must
be followed by a {sumti}, usually one that uses an abstraction.  In th= is case,
it seems that you want "{mu'i lonu do ____ mi}."

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

--
mi na se finti fi tu'a lo vi munje




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