From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Mar 05 07:57:42 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfFx8-0008J4-Ki for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:57:42 -0800 Received: from mail-gx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfFx5-0008IO-Og for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:57:42 -0800 Received: by gxk23 with SMTP id 23so7145138gxk.10 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:57:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4R15SJGVfY/g1kiKV4AUc+gMUGXIEdC1s/8HXSfppg8=; b=P3Zy3AA3JjU7j+jOVubUAvdVmENb3Fo0HTHizAWeJVGeylBMKl6BB6cZRpfXB7mG2f bETW9TTL0k7Eqb3QxVQ+6AUATEO/OMZLJ2tjWtq9/3C1SW+YXI4hTYeO50QLgpPA4fAh 3+B82V4q1sCusDwwppQZUeMvCl5B1/DN+apJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xjyLaN9aO4+wKWsHAWNwxGWa2mD7I8XSZhkLlkW+F/Y+QlgARa4xnHqmYaEfcQ2CLR t0aC0O4MaT6KK7IzWyj/K/sMsKaFuwVVmz4GUC5pfHloEEe0vkDhkg0nHcDkeqz9Jq90 YAke5igA76gjjd4x3v3QVoBfIE++1VMkE5QxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.27.9 with SMTP id e9mr1346600ybj.215.1236268653565; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:57:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300903050615o2b121b4j3d872ca6545d1da@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300903050615o2b121b4j3d872ca6545d1da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:57:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 80b9c67cb11a1790 Message-ID: <12d58c160903050757v392fb65di29e53199c3ac3414@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: difference between di'o and tu'i From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1393 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Based on the lojban dictionary I don't quite get the subtle difference > between di'o and tu'i.  Can anyone expound on this for me? > > di'o      BAI      at the locus of                           diklo modal, > 1st place                            at the locus of ... > tu'i      BAI      associated with site                      stuzi modal, > 1st place (used to situate letters)  associated with site ... ; label with > location > > It seems like they are similar but I don't really know what the exact > definition of "locus" is anyway so maybe they're completely different. > > If you wanted to say "where is John?" would you use di'o, tu'i, or something > completely different? > > - Luke Bergen They are similar indeed. This issue was discussed in a thread about a year ago: < http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners/msg05823.html > "Where is John?" -- { la djan. zvati ma } mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan