From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 11 06:51:16 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LhOq4-00066x-0g for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:16 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LhOpt-00066f-8m for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:15 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so5061qwa.58 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bL3JmQzIsNnn7kVDSFjbO5/WCvIKTzgIoebpbh6cMp4=; b=Uaxb1bH2QmgupdEXmM2wW5rWiYmEz5/hJ7sjRWuqwTv2/L5BMrqZIIx+x/q+af2f5/ TpBSUjQQSfr9X2SAxhPXFXcCwVvvMl5PShnU/KOBSpuFG7yiq3xUk/BE3Deal6ajP59s F85fA6pccON+iZM4YQPP70mrYecbbW2I1f8So= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aFAfgukyeNpTnUGp8QqEsttyhDYcrJ61niMqLN3VePxtCn7cwv1jUCBBiO6OhvD/ET O13zj6N10SymI1aGF4byFLplmcHvMI3IgHpos2uEaeE/5dnXl36J98IIVrYXC2a6hge1 euLMzdAP2YZX3ip638nvo0Ybqa6V3IvR9+nT0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.4 with SMTP id m4mr5289148qcl.55.1236779463708; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300903110611q53c9e2cdu20a218642d2a7219@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300903101354n1f06bcfbmc485a82c5b8b25df@mail.gmail.com> <20090310221726.GA13218@sdf.lonestar.org> <200903102259.04249.phma@phma.optus.nu> <5715b9300903110611q53c9e2cdu20a218642d2a7219@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:51:03 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560903110651g701c0848ib3b73fecb96de1a8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vreta From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1413 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I see.  So like most things lojban, you can't count on the "approximate > english equivalent" to be at all regular or normal.  eg. "___ing = nu ____" > is not always (or even usually) a good generalization. "nu ___" -> "___-ing" works reasonably well. In the other direction you have two options: "___-ing" -> "nu ___" "___-ing" -> "ca'o ___ " (Sometimes "-ing" can be the result of an action rather than the action, as in "a building", "a drawing", and Lojban doesn't have an obvious conversion for that.) mu'o mi'e xorxes