From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 16 06:22:13 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjClh-0003JY-DW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:22:13 -0700 Received: from mx-8.zoominternet.net ([24.154.1.27] helo=cm-2.zoominternet.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjCle-0003J5-5S for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:22:13 -0700 X-SpamGroup: 2000 X-CM-Cat: Undefined:Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZRGG-5vai6sA:10 a=yKjaTpgYz4QA:10 a=yL5XVgb8E2+fLTqkepJTkw==:17 a=D34Bv0oFxAc0cqaRrhwA:9 a=78-nllPZSMui0W86uK1WBDfxwh4A:4 a=WuK_CZDBSqoA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.154.1.47] ([24.154.1.47:48927] helo=pop-4.zoominternet.net) by mx-8.zoominternet.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.30 r(24168)) with ESMTP id 15/A6-09974-4725EB94; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:21:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 7996 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 13:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.100]) ([24.154.82.11]) (envelope-sender ) by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2009 13:21:59 -0000 Message-Id: <79AF4A30-D9CA-4C9E-AFDB-E20014C3D5C1@zoominternet.net> From: Robert Baruch To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <4643bbcd0903160609y36b6699dw78cf01afc17032cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Q about general statements Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:22:08 -0400 References: <66941D44-2E0E-4A9B-8882-27FE28D2C0F4@zoominternet.net> <96f789a60903151944p381f842v388624e85ecf1f28@mail.gmail.com> <4643bbcd0903160609y36b6699dw78cf01afc17032cf@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: -9 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 1418 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: autophile@zoominternet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Sara Brand wrote: > Something interesting to note though is the Vatican, which > technically is a city, is not in a country. Therefor it's incorrect > to say that all cities are in countries. > > - serys. > Perhaps. But Vatican City is a city-state, and I think city-states would count as countries (i.e. independent states) :) Other city- states are Monaco and Singapore. Perhaps what I'd want to say is something like "the typical city is a member of a country". la rab,rt.