From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 16 16:32:50 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjMIc-0002KE-T4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:32:50 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjMIc-0002K7-QW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:32:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:32:50 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Message-ID: <20090316233250.GD13005@digitalkingdom.org> References: <5715b9300903110611q53c9e2cdu20a218642d2a7219@mail.gmail.com> <20090316140827.5989D826F64@synx.us.to> <5715b9300903160710x55fb2181o8e65f7c8153df5be@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5715b9300903160710x55fb2181o8e65f7c8153df5be@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-archive-position: 1427 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Oh *for fuck's sake*. I'm getting them at the bounce address; I had no idea it was coming to the list. Unfortunately, there *are* no synx.us.to addresses subscribed. I've put all addresses with "synx" in them on vacation; hopefully that'll fix it. -Robin On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:10:50AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > is anybody else getting these? > > - Luke Bergen > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mail Delivery System < > MAILER-DAEMON@synx.us.to> wrote: > > > This is the mail system at host synx.us.to. > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > > > The mail system > > > > (expanded from ): temporary failure. > > Command output: connect: No such file or directory > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; synx@synx.us.to > > Original-Recipient: rfc822;lists@synx.us.to > > Action: failed > > Status: 4.3.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: x-unix; connect: No such file or directory > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Luke Bergen > > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:11:39 -0400 > > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vreta > > I see. So like most things lojban, you can't count on the "approximate > > english equivalent" to be at all regular or normal. eg. "___ing = nu ____" > > is not always (or even usually) a good generalization. > > > > - Luke Bergen > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday 10 March 2009 18:17:28 Minimiscience wrote: > >> > The problem is that, in English, the present participle of a verb (the > >> form > >> > used, among other places, in the progressive form, e.g., "Zoe is > >> ____ing") > >> > is the same as the gerund (the form used in a noun phrase corresponding > >> to > >> > Lojban "{nu}"). > >> > >> A few centuries ago, they weren't: the participle ended in "-ind". In > >> German > >> they end in "-end" and "-ung". > >> > >> Pierre > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/