From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 10 11:07:01 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsL81-00008P-0t for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:07:01 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsL7i-000068-92 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:07:00 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3AI6HGq008902 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:06:17 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n3AI6HLJ008990 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:06:17 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:06:17 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lujvo into fu'ivla Message-ID: <20090410180615.GA13333@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <4de8c3930904101055m53888421l643e2e9e268898b3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930904101055m53888421l643e2e9e268898b3@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: de'i li 10 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > A lujvo for "motorcycle" would most likely be > > matryrelxilma'e > > But it sometimes sounds too long for me to use around. So, as an > experiment, I created a fu'ivla out of it: > > trxlma'e ... > What do you think about it? .skamyxatra [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 1490 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 10 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > A lujvo for "motorcycle" would most likely be > > matryrelxilma'e > > But it sometimes sounds too long for me to use around. So, as an > experiment, I created a fu'ivla out of it: > > trxlma'e ... > What do you think about it? .skamyxatra It's invalid. As stated in section 4.7 of the CLL, the first rule of {fu'ivla} requires that, if the consonant cluster is at the beginning of the word, _every_ pair of adjacent consonants must be a valid initial consonant pair, which "rx" and "lm" are not. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- jicmu traji zifre fa loi remna lonu senpi