From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Apr 11 11:02:27 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LshX9-00084E-NQ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:02:27 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LshX4-00081Y-8H for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:02:27 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so993313qwj.58 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:02:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UyW2h/SD/trW0Mpjd8cEz2yjs8YopgzR+ME3ilI5naI=; b=A3xVPDh+FUUWffHC5zZespWrN/WGdD/zIJUugXx+3EYU/sw3Ae4gBRTBZ0Xz5IQ3AC IAY1YcE6T/MwRL88paR0dozmjpUaMSmtghFLsmeLFzqjgOzPHnUzVG5mBvKErG8kWdIi rD+zRU5btIjVnGOFBYGA3d0TaS/1swUQHHgsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=elL+dRAWIMy6/QNATQKcj5JpSHVHHb2atfrRuCgXwzIzzCW32cXiCZ45iT1NUlSSx6 QsxuWndbGnhQCSpFR3L/Mv2hS77s/QukWICzE5Y7hb3MqAZJ+dpOK3aq1ayxglErk9yd Qqk3pR3y3yCwGYzRwNibTdDaMsFou3+320aJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.32.84 with SMTP id b20mr4894596qad.224.1239472940866; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:02:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930904111015t58fc2f64xbe40ee7ca89e1615@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930904111015t58fc2f64xbe40ee7ca89e1615@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:02:20 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 39eab5f86ebe20e8 Message-ID: <12d58c160904111102v63fc3230se2fe31ac2d180af5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: smani From: Adam COOPER To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175746c6595f0304674b482a X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM, tijlan wrote: > What is the taxonomical definition of lo smani? Is it: > > 1) Primate (an order: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate) > > or > > 2) Ape/Hominoidea (a superfamily of Primate: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominoids) > > or > > 3) Great Ape/Hominidae (a family of Hominoidea: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape) > > or something else? > > According to the gimste, "ape" is included. But I'm not too sure > whether it's the ape in the sense of (2). [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ----------X-archive-position: 1508 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mr.pharmacist@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0015175746c6595f0304674b482a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM, tijlan wrote: > What is the taxonomical definition of lo smani? Is it: > > 1) Primate (an order: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate) > > or > > 2) Ape/Hominoidea (a superfamily of Primate: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominoids) > > or > > 3) Great Ape/Hominidae (a family of Hominoidea: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape) > > or something else? > > According to the gimste, "ape" is included. But I'm not too sure > whether it's the ape in the sense of (2). The largest category in the definition is the infraorder simian < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian >. So I'd argue it's invalid to assume it's more restrictive than that. It has been proposed that {smani} be used for the order primates < http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=mabru+klejutsi&bl=y > mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan --0015175746c6595f0304674b482a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM, tijlan <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
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What is the taxonomical definition of lo smani? Is it:

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or

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or

3) Great Ape/Hominidae (a family of Hominoidea:
http:/= /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape)

or something else?

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whether it's the ape in the sense of (2).

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mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan

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