From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 13 13:37:09 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtStx-00037i-QW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:37:09 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtStv-00037P-Az for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:37:09 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090413203700.HYFN6222.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:37:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E101F5F5 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:36:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: amounts Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:36:58 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <19827.98877.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <19827.98877.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904131636.58597.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Monday 13 April 2009 12:24:36 Scott Weller wrote: > I've never had a good grasp of how to *use* numbers. > > Let's say I'm waving a wad of bills under your nose. If I said: > > ti rupnu li munono > > would you understand that as "this is $500" ? > > If not, how would you say that? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 1517 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Monday 13 April 2009 12:24:36 Scott Weller wrote: > I've never had a good grasp of how to *use* numbers. > > Let's say I'm waving a wad of bills under your nose. If I said: > > ti rupnu li munono > > would you understand that as "this is $500" ? > > If not, how would you say that? That is correct. You could equally well say "ti rupnu li munono" of a fancy blender that you bought for that amount of money. To state that it's bills rather than merchandise, you can say "ti rupnu be li munono plesicni li reno" (this is 500$ in twenties). Measuring units work the same way as "rupnu". "tu ki'ogra li pa" is true both of a liter of water in California and of a platinum-iridium cylinder in Sèvres. "tu te ki'ogra" is true only of the latter. Trivia question: lo rupnu be fi re ma cu fepni li mu? Pierre