From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 21 17:49:35 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LwQed-0003vN-Fq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:49:35 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f165.google.com ([209.85.219.165]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LwQeZ-0003v5-7L for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:49:35 -0700 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1565880ewy.34 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:49:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=YhK+zY6F6r82ZaJ5Vgyl+jE3j/jm7KVmBI/7B+WckbQ=; b=O5ppymW56fDrGs7ljckMSLjqRTaEdIbLetx0gEozyWlcTUna3BE3taiRyfbEXLbzuE qevT4++mLK7EjwmY7iklJsmwAoD/uWAKlpDOMQQqzNRrHeDPwH76CZ3Laxn4u5/9M7gv AyhCL9dNJXqFeKH9uQngT3N7xfIlFgQSuLsts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ZLvMPEKYFpDRQU/P/lSE2eeCKHvsp2gDCgdBjdJlayw1LQaiKN8K+SJnStjZs/Ae/k cXlu2wR349Jpbvs4o3nIY9GeG85MZxAUFQYGI0sqnhp1Cm7BTVFdphos5G1JIEykpPjH WqGxN3xYOwxNlmRg6C+U2ghJ4+yX62sKvMh1g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.62.12 with SMTP id k12mr5624612eba.44.1240361365081; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:49:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <970754.97401.qm@web24007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20090421194648.GQ593@digitalkingdom.org> <970754.97401.qm@web24007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: Robert Rhine Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mutuality? To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bf1fe8f10a404681a2212 X-archive-position: 1576 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rrhine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0015174bf1fe8f10a404681a2212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I honestly think that mutuality was simply a bad word choice, and they just meant what people such as Fiat Knox indicated Robbie On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Fiat Knox wrote: > > The only extent would be that they are both conlangs, developed to permit > communication between persons who, while not possessing a common language, > can nonetheless develop sufficient knowledge of this language to facilitate > effective and disambiguous communication. > > I can't otherwise see any commonalities, either, myself > > Peace, > > > Alex. > > "Oh, I love it when they /ask/ me to corrupt them ..." - Me, talking to > Nai, Mar 01 2008 > > "You people and your quaint little categories." - Captain Jack Harkness, > Torchwood > > "We're grown ups now, and it's our turn to decide what that means." - > Randall Munroe, http://xkcd.com > > Conquer the Universe with me! See how at http://fiat-knox.livejournal.com > > We are now leaving the Kingdom of Star Trek and entering normal space. > > > --- On Tue, 21/4/09, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > From: Robin Lee Powell > > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mutuality? > > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > > Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 8:46 PM > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 09:24:26AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > > > from the wiki page for "lojban": Also Toki > > > Ponaand > > Esperanto > > > have > > mutuality with > > > Lojban to some extent. > > > > > > google:define gives: > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Amutuality&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= > > > > > > So what *exactly/**specifically* is meant by > > "mutuality" in this context? > > > > I haven't the *slightest* idea. Sounds meaningless to > > me. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the > > military as weapons." > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to > > try for something > > other than the default outcome?" See > > http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > > --0015174bf1fe8f10a404681a2212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I honestly think that mutuality was simply a bad word choice, and they= just meant what people such as Fiat Knox indicated
=A0
Robbie

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.c= o.uk> wrote:

The only extent would be tha= t they are both conlangs, developed to permit communication between persons= who, while not possessing a common language, can nonetheless develop suffi= cient knowledge of this language to facilitate effective and disambiguous c= ommunication.

I can't otherwise see any commonalities, either, myself

Peac= e,


Alex.

"Oh, I love it when they /ask/ me to corrup= t them ..." - Me, talking to Nai, Mar 01 2008

"You people = and your quaint little categories." - Captain Jack Harkness, Torchwood=

"We're grown ups now, and it's our turn to decide what tha= t means." - Randall Munroe, http://xkcd.com

Conquer the Universe with me! See how at http://fiat-k= nox.livejournal.com

We are now leaving the Kingdom of Star Trek and entering normal space.<= br>

--- On Tue, 21/4/09, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
> Subject: [lojban-beginners]= Re: mutuality?
> To: = lojban-beginners@lojban.org
> Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 8:46 PM
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 09:24:26AM -0400, Luke Berge= n wrote:
> > from the wiki page for "lojban": =A0Also To= ki
> > Pona<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona>and
> Esperanto
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto> ha= ve
> mutuality with
> > Lojban to some extent.
> ><= br> > > google:define gives:
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?hl= =3Den&q=3Ddefine%3Amutuality&btnG=3DGoogle+Search&aq=3Df&oq= =3D
> >
> > So what *exactly/**specifically* is meant by
>= "mutuality" in this context?
>
> I haven't the *= slightest* idea. =A0Sounds meaningless to
> me.
>
> -Robi= n
>
> --
> They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by t= he
> military as weapons."
> And I'm =A0thinking: =A0&= quot;Does it even occur to you to
> try for something
> other = =A0than =A0the default =A0outcome?" =A0See
> http://shrunk= link.com/cdiz
> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
&= gt; http://www.lojban.= org/







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