From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu May 14 16:10:09 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 14 May 2009 16:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M4k40-0004r8-IT for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:10:09 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f165.google.com ([209.85.219.165]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M4k3t-0004mR-NE for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:10:08 -0700 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2110400ewy.34 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:09:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EGQtgypHd8BMLQz/IRAELnLtXeg+g1yKijI0qP2I2h0=; b=VTyCfE0NlACyFeqIu5sIllm2FkFtM/k0E2IYuLRZS2rm8uE5L6yN+r85ax0cqheslF ZIkNfEJk06pI2UGA4kkdjQ//lLDEYMRsUvFf1hCTcRlSGAEnl1c9bv8xuF56hvbyD30o xFztAzVLEFBX0y78YjRHL5KkboJbpvnAd8EgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ct0fhcR/dEgqhbBgZZ6ZBr46I/FiDdBM4BIdfumrTusLtjjsYwTyJoZGEcJ+v0kfxV O0M2+xLHrMGL1mzwlI5vuKK7hVzq5M27lgC6ewvYQdhmo7O+JExulOEePjtR4VbTDpSZ hMawbDXL2dGrnT75o/2tr9Bw0PhHSzs2lAKk0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.0.81 with SMTP id 59mr1028252wea.77.1242342594406; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:09:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <38c99b470905141344mbe1f38bw33bc26d1548746a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <38c99b470905141344mbe1f38bw33bc26d1548746a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:09:54 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c998cd99e886e573 Message-ID: <4de8c3930905141609p8060957tbdf16074d6b0760b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Anyone interested in Peacemaking and Linguistics? From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1668 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/5/14 Carlos Gabriel Quiroz : > > Hello everyone, my name's Gabriel. I'm quite serious about becoming a peace > activist and my interest in Lojban is its potential for interpersonal > conflict resolution, mediation, negotiations, etc. since I'm very interested > in the role of language and communication in conflict resolution and peace > making. Right now I'm learning all I can about Peace -building, -making, > -keeping, Peace Theory, Peace Education, Peace Culture, nonviolence, > community building, etc. everything involved with peace. I'd really > appreciate it if anyone here has any books, articles, websites, > documentaries to recommend. Naturally, I've read 1984 and am interested in > digging deeper. > If anyone's interested in learning about peace, let me know and I'll share > with you sources and materials as I come by them. > Here are some which I consider good to start with. Most of what I've been > reading has been offline. > Manifesto 2000 by UNESCO > (a voluntary compromise) > http://www3.unesco.org/manifesto2000/uk/uk_manifeste.htm > > Psychology for Peace Activists > (it's a case study ebook on the steps peace activists go through, based on > american activists) > http://www.culture-of-peace.info/ppa/title-page.html > > Nonviolence by Wikipedia > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolence > > Thanks! Good luck! Hi. I have been reading up on integral philosophy (e.g. Ken Wilber, Jean Gebser, William Irwin Thompson, Michael Murphy), which seeks to provide an understanding of the evolution of consciousness, culture, and civilization. Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on Ken Wilber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber): ----------------------- Levels or stages The concept of levels follows closely on the concept of lines of development. The more highly developed you are in a particular line, the higher level you are at in that line. Wilber's conception of the level is clearly based on several theories of developmental psychology, including: Piaget's theory of cognitive development, Kohlberg's stages of moral development, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, Erikson's stages of psychosocial development, and Jane Loevinger's stages of ego development. One such scheme describes the ethical developmental line, for example: * Egocentric (similar to Carol Gilligan's 'Selfish' stage) * Ethnocentric or Sociocentric (Gilligan's 'Care' stage) * Worldcentric (Gilligan's 'Universal Care' stage) * Being-centric (Gilligan's 'Integrated' stage) ----------------------- If Lojban really helps to communicate in a less culturally specific manner of thinking, there might be an interesting potential in this language to bring along people from the ethnocentric stage onto the worldcentric stage, which is considered to be the primary psychological basis for seeking 'world peace'. But I'm still exploring what Lojban can do either linguistically or psychologically (and perhaps even its political implications), so there is little for me to comment in definitive terms on the matter as of now. tijlan