From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon May 18 11:55:55 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 May 2009 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M680B-0005vR-0Q for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 11:55:55 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M6805-0005tb-KD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 11:55:54 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n4IItcsc020215 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 18:55:38 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n4IItcIS029239 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 18:55:38 GMT Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:55:37 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sides Message-ID: <20090518185535.GB2965@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <4de8c3930905150216n6be2a0a2mcf06cab38dbe54d6@mail.gmail.com> <20090515155454.GA28981@sdf.lonestar.org> <925d17560905151012u5cf2f186ob70bd89191609300@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60905180956x3cce8570ud4745419e185ff6a@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930905181137t24eada96n358f05c4375183be@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930905181137t24eada96n358f05c4375183be@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 1685 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 18 pi'e 05 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I think I've seen the use of "pa'a" for "fi'o kansa". .skamyxatra That's not really the same. "{kansa}" implies companionship or accompaniment in some activity (which "{pa'a}"/"{panra}" lacks), and the companion need not be doing the same thing as the subject (which "{pa'a}" does imply). mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ne'i le vo'a zdani be bu'u la rliex. la noi morsi .ktulxus. senva denpa