From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 01 05:55:15 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MB72o-00034A-Ss for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:55:15 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MB72j-00033w-GD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:55:14 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so29051774ywm.46 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+y25cGeuIN0m7n0lEU84Nm27h+7bSfjaPeWiegItiSI=; b=oFy3SLmN5mCEsiRfNe4gHXDOlsRYq/qmPM4uZDbFWVoLEQMN30mgRK6DBaPGP9N6Q3 C6cRazcxyyFBvX4te5xON4pWpCjkRl4MDPCo7IYTlxt/gRn7dJqKGyQx8Kjj9MnbHSbl b0C2RbV+dhuml0wOZCOK0fEAEVzOl6F23/dXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m0k95GQfQ+eqKelKshsplSN9sybfDtBDGQ+M2BPi/GD5taulWScror5FzO/kqbIvnv 0S7qk0gLnMtEIYRdqdxOGi5En0gBnwQkLym3bsu5e0NzZEuH3ac6ixNL24Bud+338iSK 9dfZT81hbkXtNNgBSeFrmaFlggnI5Sl9umk/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr7214862anc.46.1243860908390; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930906010310w6665f193saf7c5a68c521e079@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906010310w6665f193saf7c5a68c521e079@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:55:08 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560906010555k5147bc22kc852ebb4bcb9c2d4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: do NU broda From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1733 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, tijlan wrote: > I know "do ka melbi" may sound odd and is actually considered invalid > in Lojbanistan. Depends what you mean by "invalid". The syntax is valid. It is just semantically odd in the same way that "do namcu" or "do rokci" are odd, as people are usually not taken to be properties, numbers or rocks. > But how about "do za'i melbi" and "do zu'o melbi", ... > For this reason, I don't see much of a difference between "do" and > "tu'a do" in the aforementioned case. Both can be the x1 of "za'i > melbi" or "zu'o melbi", pe'i. Yes, those are grammatical too, and if what you want is to say is that someone is a state or an activity, that's the way to do it. mu'o mi'e xorxes