From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 07 08:11:49 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MDK2H-000227-7Z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:11:49 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MDK28-00021r-RO for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:11:48 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so10223993ywm.46 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:11:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TxSsCtJ3uST6spB9g5KXutuAn1aS+FF3gIlyqgL+tCQ=; b=GVlWnw0hR6PcwyjVlbqD/fF6wi9l7pWugt/VuisOLd4vWAlbFFZNqP1XQKOTF3ClKc BkfPJSYA/LWQMsJUgpKrcOOnjbcycuPeDVQ4wlc0zk0KHewOnubuwAMO9DY8LpOoi7oL 6R31sJj2aTkhG4b9hiFAPG1nkkHS/Xkwe7lXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aoWvOLSvOypGLPFRTuIhHH1CoBv9x1tkvIHzGkpMrSRt1M8m7XXqLU7Lgv3EgRPQM/ onVclrLeiRrjwtXLRpncOJGJ2xNbTgtZ915uMfOoJqI5GXFlAsALN0K7eyC+4e0XkD7+ on6Rt34oyPzFBW6iBipSx/aMLpzvLEoEXEyXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.132.14 with SMTP id f14mr5399406and.79.1244387499525; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:11:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930906070605l293d14bhe8e76bf3834f665c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906070306x4205c8f8h914dea8bf119e08e@mail.gmail.com> <200906070734.17276.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4de8c3930906070605l293d14bhe8e76bf3834f665c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:11:39 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560906070811m167587abgf77130c9aded02c2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: rapidez From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 1788 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/7/09, tijlan wrote: > 2009/6/7 Pierre Abbat : >> On Sunday 07 June 2009 06:06:36 tijlan wrote: >>> Would it be useful if there were a gismu for "speed", for "ni sutra ju'e >>> masno"? >> >> What's wrong with "nilsutra"? There doesn't have to be a gismu for >> everything. > > Why not "nilmasno", then? Because it points to a certain polarity. And > so does "nilsutra". > > True, in some languages, the word for "speed" is lexically related to > the word for "fast" (like the Spanish "rapidez" and "r¨¢pido", or the > Japanese "ËÙ¶È" and "ËÙ¤¤"); but this is not a universal tendency. Lojban > cares for cultural neutrality, so the polarity-specific "nilsutra" may > be questionable. > > Also, if we had a gismu for the neutral sense of "speed", we could > have derived two lujvo for "fast" and "slow" (i.e. "bu'a zei zmadu" > and "bu'a zei mleca"). Make one get two free. > > mu'o mi'e tijlan > > > >