From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 12 09:25:58 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MF9Zl-00082g-Q3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:25:58 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MF9Zi-00082H-3S for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:25:57 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so8721075ywm.46 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:25:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cVod/3yQB4kJ+8fxZSf8UcFetUeZhXckD4N2wujJJ3U=; b=ntLg4v0cpyli6O0K+RwIjD9vy/oe2gjBsyE7lG1yu9oruCO/aimO5irW9Kea9YRbdi 6t08K7lSBQQi3FOPzyGowfnyxPNdmvnvNODZjgGTnq3p0B2zc9nQVj4qk5O6w6KwJayT Fd90m3t48EOzVwaTiKl7/YgEzTxTw6uywQb1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LY61dCqTTYXyOMphgLkawcSAQ0DR+XjbTddxUa/Gm9G5vXWxOJAmMv15tVqgbFKjVg H5EJokXUTl9adEplaYjNjQC+986Qfg9sqhrnqb3HQqqq3vI5cGEvUKVvKqTBfYQT2bkO t1rXJlpFDIClKPMsE49htNzRR4XG6u+FsDdo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.155.21 with SMTP id h21mr7751192ybo.280.1244823952947; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:25:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560906120856k61db5c01s38a44a499c46a8eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906080850i28870a74r5d71a40d4d030924@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906081007q4521505ds28e5a9a5f379c4e6@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930906091424n7803df0ay84ef17a85de13449@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906091827p12a6ed31q5fba406df1991e6d@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300906092121u5b8718eeid04021a756f6a35a@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930906100103y3e2a30efo9b02067d522f74b3@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906100552w6c054a98j527647ccbe22fa13@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60906120736y41064cb9s8fadb7b79730af47@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906120856k61db5c01s38a44a499c46a8eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:25:52 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60906120925j196505acs9c14b6191f0d233e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo za'u jo'u zo me'i From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750dd8c85f90e046c292919 X-archive-position: 1833 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --00151750dd8c85f90e046c292919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009/6/12 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Michael > Turniansky wrote: > > > > Really! I didn't know pe'e had uses outside of per se termsets. > > Neither chapter 20 nor chapter 14 mentions it. > > Example 11.4 in Chapter 20 implicitly shows it by using a single-term > termset: > > 11.4) mi pe'e ja do ce'e le zarci cu klama le briju > I [joint] or you to-the market [plus] go to/from-the office. > That may implicitly show it by your standard, but it's still within the context of termsets, which doesn't imply to me that it can work with other kind of terms (or for that matter, I'm not 100% sure that the term "term" i= s formally introduced in the human-readable part of the CLL, but I couild be mistaken. Hard to tell without an index (at lteast, the online version doesn't have one. The text makes reference to one in chapter 2, section 18. Does it exist in the paper version?) --gejyspa --00151750dd8c85f90e046c292919 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2009/6/12 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Michael
Turniansky<mturniansky@gmail.co= m> wrote:
>
> =C2=A0Really! =C2=A0I didn't know pe'e had uses outside of per= se =C2=A0termsets.
> Neither chapter 20 nor chapter 14 mentions it.

Example 11.4 in Chapter 20 implicitly shows it by using a single-term= termset:

11.4) =C2=A0 =C2=A0mi pe'e ja do ce'e le zarci cu klama le briju =C2=A0 =C2=A0I [joint] or you to-the market [plus] go to/from-the office.<= br>
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=C2=A0 That may implicitly show it=C2=A0= by your standard, but it's still within the context of termsets, which= doesn't imply to me that it can work with other kind of terms (or for = that matter, I'm not 100% sure that the term "term" is formal= ly introduced in the human-readable part of the CLL, but I couild be mistak= en.=C2=A0 Hard to tell without an index (at lteast, the online version does= n't have one.=C2=A0 The text makes reference to one in chapter 2, secti= on 18.=C2=A0 Does it exist in the paper version?)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa<= br>

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