From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 20 02:12:20 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MHwcW-00041S-Ms for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:12:20 -0700 Received: from mail-px0-f203.google.com ([209.85.216.203]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <00ai99@gmail.com>) id 1MHwcU-00040U-2P for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:12:20 -0700 Received: by pxi41 with SMTP id 41so126544pxi.28 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LjAcZq2tov8/tS+UHguj+XaxWnyaRkP4iPbjMeMEniE=; b=k9x82jv9je4H4QBhpfNbnBaTpDOoc6WaQdtwFj6rT+nvr34exmyACbEUh9x5xR81DL n3PdZziXM+SUesk0xY0o0+9FtVJvTlA5fBTrT0z8ZpAazPV4fGh58vlL8nVSOKtnm3Un 8FHYUfvrXYFaVGtqgwQrNpq4ZH6nISIKuPD0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H7vAqrL58nWhrUWlDUwqQGk+/to2utMyjXynvfTugtLdZ6BAZRNSvWt7emzeMXJhmX 67s7/gETpe6b3QiFMdMGCBWp/c91+KURrzap/Ade4yd57GHlF/gHR3PcCHjsKNhhmIkV o7rTygzE5hFI61hK7ztARFvwy9+OsC7q11RRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.213.5 with SMTP id l5mr1716025wfg.91.1245489132043; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:42:12 +0930 Message-ID: <23f4e3390906200212j5dc389c5i87ee3bd22ac56a9a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] comment structure From: David Gowers <00ai99@gmail.com> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1855 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: 00ai99@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I was writing about a numeric encoding system and eventually wrote this: li no ga'o bi'o ga'o vo nosomu pi sososomupapazepabizemu cu nacyja'e sekai le papamei jetka'usatci va'i se'i li pa fi'u renovobi in English: numeric-result is in range [0 .. 4095.99951171875]. with-property 11 bit-precision - in other words 1 / 2048 jbofihe likes this. however, jbofihe's -t output seems dubious to me -- in particular where 'TERM_TAGGED_SUMTI' is attaching -- to "nacyja'e" rather than to "le papamei jetka'usatci" .. well, I don't mean to say .. "numeric precision .. in other words, 11 bit-precision' :) In my opinion, the TERM_TAGGED_SUMTI (the aside "va'i se'i li pa fi'u renovobi") should be attached to "le papamei jetka'usatci" I think I am missing knowledge of a necessary grouping cmavo. I tried amending it to say "sekai le ke papamei jetka'usatci ke'e va'i" -- jbofihe also accepts this, but it doesn't effect the grouping third try: li no ga'o bi'o ga'o vo nosomu pi sososomupapazepabizemu cu nacyja'e sekai le papamei jetka'usatci .e va'i li pa fi'u renovobi that is, (le papamei jetka'usatci) .e (va'i se'i li pa fi'u renovobi) which seems correct, and it produces a somewhat sensible-looking tree where (va'i se'i li pa fi'u renovobi) is attached to sekai. the non-tree output also looks sensible. Is this appropriate? 'and in other words 1/2048' seems still a bit odd. I really just want to specify '11 bit-precision, in other words 1/2048'; is that un-lojbanic or am I just ignorant ? :) Thanks. David