From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 20 05:47:33 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MHzyl-0003DH-UE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:47:32 -0700 Received: from devbraindump.de ([62.75.244.23] helo=nyx.devbraindump.de) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MHzyf-0003Ca-P1 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:47:31 -0700 Received: by nyx.devbraindump.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8202F4958492; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:47:23 +0200 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Syllables Message-ID: <20090620124723.GG14028@vs244023.vserver.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) From: florolf@devbraindump.de (Florian Larysch) X-archive-position: 1857 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: florolf@devbraindump.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 02:02:47PM +0200, Johan Pretorius wrote: > Yet there is also a rule that claims brivla are penultemately stressed. > Surely then, it should be */lobe,UH,pay/*, not */LOBE,uh,pay/*? y-syllables are not counted when determining penultimate stress: In counting syllables, however, syllables whose vowel is ``y'' or which contain a syllabic consonant (``l'', ``m'', ``n'', or ``r'') are never counted. (http://dag.github.com/cll/3/9/) mu'o mi'e florolf