From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 02 09:07:45 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMOp6-0007Ck-V1 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:45 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f202.google.com ([209.85.212.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMOp2-0007AM-JX for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:44 -0700 Received: by vwj40 with SMTP id 40so985802vwj.28 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a1FNULVKXWkBp5EljQ12wSWWtxDsk3aLZ5MX1ncHzMI=; b=QZBdY34dGDb9VDFwsti+NQ6ZJKDzSipdY6DMnvqTNqqMwnmdMpDf+fLuWLXGfWg8U8 NNZap7UjbTnTQIYqBVVTP3TXkDr/ekLbI2UzaNYWjpjvd7llssDm4OcuU67G8dlYVGrd QqgSPoiimeiBGx+gHGsJwcMZ6CqzMOrP5VKGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aozCBAKqLa2cNauF6N952XNntvNlUCtvHcohbdm04JU86Tlzr+4isWy1MqMOI0jGWc Y9rApfw94kFPv1zXnlaisU68Ns3AjGFNYrzbAf1RxgzUT58KLM5Z497xgazM6vZQAOIs 1nrC3x8n0yNq73u13RnFB6WT8j67+xa1xIY0A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.99.200 with SMTP id v8mr338382vcn.97.1246550854143; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96f789a60907020854y7354cabcpbdfd5b64c573367d@mail.gmail.com> References: <925d17560907010551s4e891ddckd05914a4f4276f8a@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560907010801s80af284see3da3198e7d248f@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560907020526j58e3af49w5de474478ed8083f@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60907020712k2545766cx8150cdd81481aba6@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300907020723u3d9a1f52lef5639f8e0eda881@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60907020854y7354cabcpbdfd5b64c573367d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:07:34 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300907020907y1b67bcd6x487d9b9524a8de93@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: xorlo quanitifiers From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6475b04db1e09046dbb3ca3 X-archive-position: 1925 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e6475b04db1e09046dbb3ca3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hmmm, I was going for more like " I'm learning, therefore I'm (not completely) successful". Not exactly sure how I should have done that but your translation makes sense now that I read it. Maybe ... ja'e mi to na'e mulno toi snada That doesn't seem right though. - Luke Bergen On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > > I'm swelling with pride that following along in this conversation I've > been > > mostly right about what's been said. > > > > o'acai mi cilre ja'e mi na'e mulno snada > > > > (I'm sure there's a better way to say that last bit) > > You have a grammatical problem here. "ja'e", like all BAI, must be > followed by a single sumti. Therefore you need to "wrap up" the part > after it into one sumti by sticking a "lo nu" in front: > > o'acai mi cilre ja'e lo nu mi na'e mulno snada > > This says, " I'm learning, therefore I'm not > completely successful". > --gejyspa > > > > --0016e6475b04db1e09046dbb3ca3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm, I was going for more like "<extreme pride> I'm learnin= g, therefore I'm (not completely) successful".=A0 Not exactly sure= how I should have done that but your translation makes sense now that I re= ad it.=A0 Maybe

... ja'e mi to na'e mulno toi snada

That doesn't see= m right though.

- Luke Bergen


On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Michael= Turniansky <= mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Luke Bergen<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm swelling with pride that following along in this conversation = I've been
> mostly right about what's been said.
>
> o'acai mi cilre ja'e mi na'e mulno snada
>
> (I'm sure there's a better way to say that last bit)

=A0You have a grammatical problem here. =A0"ja'e", lik= e all BAI, must be
followed by a single sumti. =A0Therefore you need to "wrap up" th= e part
after it into one sumti by sticking a "lo nu" in front:

o'acai mi cilre ja'e lo nu mi na'e mulno snada

=A0This says, "<Extreme pride> I'm learning, therefore I= 9;m not
completely successful".
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa




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