From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jul 04 12:26:41 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNAsi-0006sK-Cy for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:26:40 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.217.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNAsc-0006r1-LH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:26:40 -0700 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so5655569gxk.10 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:26:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NaWnTc/vlaV21HCL478z+agMLrCuICV2iIpPkLxXnnc=; b=OsuNGl3YmfrSIi6cSVEr+3eT5b0ldP1HFbsrjMXY+HIt9uJ7z6mghYnY+j4/dRlV/h zcTUwiKZJrX6lmuxoF3QJcaSILPXnYngtukndLDM5Q5SoBz2RnOWWc7mP8SdniDIWa3E gZH3NfnXMUcm4l47+rwyadBb86v8PYc4iOS2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o1aay2bhMzABRs21oZEihcqDoA4iTvztbZYffmPhx2MQzl70eRBG574Fa/90TiQjPK 9Ytgf4oVBgKY37pEu98mD4z08mCmTafqeKEBDC64prurpwT6gCCurEx1WVNRtBRzux9D X7Eh4CFx69hkQnZMEebHhfQRennDxkGfQA96Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.53.4 with SMTP id b4mr2384890aga.18.1246735588506; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:26:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <737b61f30907031720j571349edw6f0d49810130a2b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <737b61f30907031720j571349edw6f0d49810130a2b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:26:28 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560907041226q19220501h22b7f017778d0d27@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: cibyseltuple From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1931 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 7/3/09, Chris Capel wrote: > > I'm wondering about the lujvo "cibyseltuple". A "seltuple" would be > something with a leg. So "cibyseltuple" would be "three somethings > with legs", right? Something with three legs. Compare with the classic "pavyseljirna". Also "relselxi'u", although people seem to prefer "relxilma'e". > Or are we taking advantage of the ambiguity > inherent in tanru to select the more sensible meaning here? If it's > the latter, that means there's probably no good way to programatically > gloss this lujvo well, as the "cib" applies to the "tuple" part, while > the "fa" place is assigned the "seltuple" part. Which is more mixed up > than any generic algorithm could unmix. "Three-legged", "seltuple be ci da". But I don't think an algorithm to gloss any lujvo based only on its rafsi would be at all easy to come up with. mu'o mi'e xorxes