From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 23 07:58:09 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MTzkG-0001l8-F9 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:58:08 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.217.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MTzkC-0001jQ-RW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:58:08 -0700 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so3847477gxk.10 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:57:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y5vnsGTFKRGFrWoH9NC+OEWePlVMKKzh1AYufyH1hSE=; b=xFcLO/ckzXqYCgO6w/wqq+sEyxWaZFBM+VnArPrrtsk7+RR12MYndL1bQ6irNF6Q1Z sIKuVlnU3/GIlGEeBSq/I65ReKkr1pU4ayAQD0qEzRrjGZqbU7uR5L0RbeZ6u8A8PuaS btyD0aGYm+JNIRk36kwwp1nQKxGEUxmerAa94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ltdgzJfKkDxfawnBJpcExmW4OFng3JZUablXh62XrGIb2pmZitiO6WEa3V856hl9zE Ao5Y//KbCOOPdKpiulRWh/BRspZd4k71O3slB5tWozPnAJQnGzYjTVyYiYqaYfPCFaq1 zOfAfCTN2SlT14BGAfXfbVjCuhBu61gRE3HsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.55.20 with SMTP id d20mr1905874aga.57.1248361078088; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:57:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907230856.24703.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <200907102012.59078.phma@phma.optus.nu> <200907230856.24703.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:57:58 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560907230757p4f1dfc6dn3dc9e78689fc083d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Some material From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1948 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > .i mi pensi lo nu ba vitke la beLEM. gi'e vusysumne lo .atsai noi vi ra banro > > (I'm not sure whether "ra" or "ri" is right. It's supposed to refer to "la > beLEM". Presumably it's "ri" if the noi-clause is as you have it, before the KU, and "ra" if it were after the KU: (la belem) ... (lo .atsai ku) noi vi ra banro (ri=lo .atsai ku, ra=la belem) (la belem) ... (lo .atsai noi vi ri banro [ku]) (ri=la belem) But ri/ra rules probably need simplifying. > There's a missing gismu in the analogy panci:sumne::vrusi:? so I use > a lujvo.) I think "ganse" was meant as the general purpose word for that: sance - tirna panci - sumne jvinu - viska vrusi - vu'irga'e tengu - te'urga'e mu'o mi'e xorxes