From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 01 00:33:39 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiNs2-0001dz-UG for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:33:39 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiNrz-0001df-Gh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:33:38 -0700 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3833796bwz.34 for ; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:33:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Nr1aL6jYC0Fv5vaIb+nXNog3zhGSLPcDEYQExoBVups=; b=u8UC/TWaA1P1STUQJQJF1vGUusaNBnnbxWlts9ZW+5u37jU4UgN1+MzsQRMtJ2GZ1t 2SYBsQeLlcThLVtxeAp3Wo0nsMuLYe53DlaJ2HXmObWiTaY127uDsGRWh46YKUHpPsWI Q0XqD5rXPbmEbpX0XaZFtCXdL+EoPgiucRqt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=u9Vh9erxr6sT7YWrEQGgcuOAxsp+EDB6HfIBTLYZy9BTaS/RbnC5MVRJrP3gzhEMna 18GUgLFQJDu/BNWyorONUW85HCgFPitQd8BnmNnVWYmDdHdov9kzZ2I/29U4FVO7oXkH Pe7vRui+5BXW+AzaekvVX10N60ldC5OTM5FuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.203 with SMTP id y11mr5218357bkw.200.1251790408831; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:33:28 +0200 Message-ID: <52a782220909010033k10038c9dkd562ff57bbe2a55a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] metaphorical poor From: Alexandre Dezotti To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2141 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dezotti.alexandre@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hello, i cannot find the translation for the metaphorical 'poor', ie in the sense used in "poor of us!". This of course doesn't mean "we are not rich", but rather something which is a subtile mixture of unluckyness (not mandatorily), sadness, humility(sometimes), and other things. You might wonder why i need this... Well, i'm trying to learn by translating things. And so, i'm wondering if there is a place where people work together in translating (somehow classical) texts, one could show the translation and people say if one should change things etc. This makes two questions. ki'eba mu'o