From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Sep 04 12:01:56 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mje2l-00028t-T0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:01:56 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.212.193]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mje2i-00027i-KB for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:01:55 -0700 Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so906030vws.28 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T1Vsvz3ecfQZz+40mncwtI+BxiXHEGUAy/TCQVxkiw8=; b=gI/zTOJJTb5Viizv97VhxTF0xSyU/0YquwToWSSGUbchNSzRF8eHFfnfK10USj4223 MkFjYJ+l01jYEMPvj5OAQL8ZPMNNfWuSdyYGkQmLIXZNf0+wgcQsbgCLnyTYaEkGC3zR BcMRHrvMplM4KhJ2x30bxibw6S3keyKkGKmTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HmCFp3Ex0Hb8FvQc+YkMHklkEhp92DrcscIpNkUUTnSZ6XFnFlNt0wTdFdOfsbrhf5 2UyxdT/oNfDnJtiSfFwNGNo2C55VqvnfAlwu5jP7Clwd7KwaINBLfAewafhOMF0qs08I Mc1V95qhDV0pEMOJ4F+yjvIl7VlrLIWIuEknk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.111.212 with SMTP id t20mr15958043vcp.55.1252090904462; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:01:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <71550650909041143l73165fc2mcbd71fb652a11783@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909031338k5c931840x1c394e6a40a077b3@mail.gmail.com> <425e4ac20909031551w386814e8na1e2d2d4ade90dce@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930909040703q2bd0caa2l46c9a72f7d79f94d@mail.gmail.com> <71550650909041143l73165fc2mcbd71fb652a11783@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:01:44 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909041201l728f2c87l5b05991f8cc41049@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "don't you have somewhere to be?" From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64617d69647f40472c521e5 X-archive-position: 2193 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e64617d69647f40472c521e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that makes sense. thanks for all your input. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: > We should be able to preserve the tone and sarcasm through rhetorical > questions > paunai xu do bilga lenu cliva > paunai xu do bilga lenu klama le datselzva > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, tijlan wrote: > >> Though i'm not a native English speaker, it seems to me that "don't >> you have somewhere to be?" is not a real question but an indirect >> suggestion. So i agree with Selckiku's translation: something without >> "xu". >> >> >> >> > --0016e64617d69647f40472c521e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that makes sense.

thanks for all your input.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Yoav Nir <<= a href=3D"mailto:yoav.nir@gmail.com">yoav.nir@gmail.com> wrot= e:
= We should be able to preserve the tone and sarcasm through rhetorical quest= ions

paunai xu do bilga lenu cliva
paunai xu do bilga l= enu klama le datselzva


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
Though i'm not a native English speaker, it seems to me that "don&= #39;t
you have somewhere to be?" is not a real question but an indirect
suggestion. So i agree with Selckiku's translation: something without "xu".





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