From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 07 08:10:24 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkfrL-0003ut-6w for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:10:23 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f192.google.com ([209.85.211.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkfrG-0003tW-Gd for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:10:22 -0700 Received: by ywh30 with SMTP id 30so4069936ywh.25 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:10:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=81oWa7CEPkaMMZhzplOJJHxfZVOKAdXsgAMjyFpsgK0=; b=Sk/hiT3HoighTd/VWwfHRO2un0ZwV/zqeUhuHWIuyVsZUznFlkbYLkJCFpWwptelnO 3CqFeZ7PPGaTWhDG1nJcJszktHuLYRVCv/5z+PkQijjbE3uEUWHx/2DiGzRVORveAHks rBwIBN/raBdw0VJbRwv4PeGM10tL9PBzfXowI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hTrbY+3B+ZxkJULwdypEfOk28czZRpgYr3JS32EwrcpcAYXMQGsz21OfLN4CYR89q7 zwXeR2sP+3+FkPjLkDKmltT9yO7FFzLqUZAP5KlucxcZfLBFMB5/jiY/fYLYebEcNHa3 z2eyPJb8Jj8YxABGCc9wzM04U9WUMlS/NHPfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr24177118ybc.63.1252336212357; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:10:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300909041201l728f2c87l5b05991f8cc41049@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909031338k5c931840x1c394e6a40a077b3@mail.gmail.com> <425e4ac20909031551w386814e8na1e2d2d4ade90dce@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930909040703q2bd0caa2l46c9a72f7d79f94d@mail.gmail.com> <71550650909041143l73165fc2mcbd71fb652a11783@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909041201l728f2c87l5b05991f8cc41049@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:10:12 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60909070810h4ed0f358g81000b46185e2297@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "don't you have somewhere to be?" From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 2231 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > that makes sense. > > thanks for all your input. > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >> >> We should be able to preserve the tone and sarcasm through rhetorical >> questions >> paunai xu do bilga lenu cliva >> paunai xu do bilga lenu klama le datselzva >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, tijlan wrote: >>> >>> Though i'm not a native English speaker, it seems to me that "don't >>> you have somewhere to be?" is not a real question but an indirect >>> suggestion. So i agree with Selckiku's translation: something without >>> "xu". I'm even more blunt: e'uro'a ko cliva ;-) --gejyspa