From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 08 05:18:26 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkzeT-0000Zr-Uk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:18:26 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkzeP-0000Y4-LN for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:18:25 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090908121814766.RUCM5638@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:18:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69504020; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 08:18:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Jedi Master Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 08:17:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) Cc: Herc du Preez , Francois Jordaan References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909080817.51962.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 2248 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tuesday 08 September 2009 06:50:25 Johan Pretorius wrote: > Hi all > > Herc and I have been wondering, how would one say "Jedi Master"? > > The dictionary claims noljedai to be defined as "x1 is a Jedi of power / > level / rank x2" > > However, nol is a rafsi for nobli, which seems to be the closest word we > have for "master" in Lojban, so effectively noljedai already means "Jedi > Master"? > > Or would one say "nobli noljedai"? > > This is me asking about words that will get my colleagues interested :-) "noljedai" is a type-4 fu'ivla, so what "nol" is a rafsi of is irrelevant. So "nobli noljedai" is like "matching matchcoats". A type-3 fu'ivla consists of a rafsi ending in a consonant, a hyphen-letter "r" or "n" or "l", and a part of foreign origin beginning with a consonant and ending with a vowel. Pierre