From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 08 12:56:00 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ml6nI-0005wd-8k for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:56:00 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ml6nF-0005wL-AJ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:56:00 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so4203468ewy.0 for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:55:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tS7f2ED+JKVHgyY1e8UClqsw99Bc+jGoVw0HwNt/YsM=; b=STkPAY+7kswkP+dOMdeMn7l2H4PpHvq7l7DAb1Z+C9mxyDNtLdvFemYUstsKPkGgS8 bNGKtH47UtJIWYp8t3eR+kQJFdBiBAFUZw9nqQ55PXxR9UxenPUq+EHE0EY33a9Z6WKG Lc6xWCy//yecuECya0WclI5OhgDaOyndHB6Os= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ko+/d3mTPpwaWDAxLu8tQAd7br02Bb21fMgrsMbr1NECreQo+17fQ12gsktudwtRX4 csm0uEf6U8dbyBxakemeS1URuTvp92Wmd9Vft8fLoDx1nRuZMy+5VGD8v8vfWFFJVgc4 v/R/JFJp8jAj5jxKaupyShxs3njmSZRS8e/tM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.158.11 with SMTP id k11mr157928ebo.63.1252439750437; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:55:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96f789a60909071000m7efdb840kcb37646a3cd5c7c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <96f789a60909071000m7efdb840kcb37646a3cd5c7c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:55:50 +0300 Message-ID: <9ada8ecd0909081255m2215bd02oae0eb2cb8949463e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: let us From: Squark Rabinovich To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d5146d70c50473165ad4 X-archive-position: 2252 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: top.squark@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --00504502d5146d70c50473165ad4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > If you are not using a cmevla after a COI/DOI, it means that you are > actually identifying a member of that category, so the la becomes > necessary if you are using a brivla for a name (like "gejyspa") when > using COI/DOI (admittedly, most people informally drop it in > conversations with me, but strictly speaking, it is necessary, unless > I really am a rootish plant by some standard, which I'm not). I don't agree. See section 9 of chapter 8 of the reference grammar. *co'o xirma* can stand for *co'o le xirma* or *co'o la xirma* --00504502d5146d70c50473165ad4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM,= Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are not using a cmevla after a COI/DOI, it means t= hat you are
actually identifying a member of that category, so the la becomes
necessary if you are using a brivla for a name (like "gejyspa") w= hen
using COI/DOI (admittedly, most people informally drop it in
conversations with me, but strictly speaking, it is necessary, unless
I really am a rootish plant by some standard, which I'm not).=A0

I don't agree. See section 9 of chapter 8 of = the reference=A0grammar.=A0co'o = xirma can stand for co'o le xirma=A0or=A0co&#= 39;o la xirma
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