From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 09 06:17:09 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlN2r-0007qv-7J for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:17:09 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlN2h-0007na-Ua for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:17:09 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so4946159ewy.0 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:16:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2gVw32I7IOgrLtFh9gaMzG+Ab0IHHTTttrCDL7FUprc=; b=AyciT49M0ulmFFX9eKt9pnU3mxtNiIEQrcb8FDaoLyl7EOER+KOAS+eCKSumR/gRVJ BGT597LSBumfaI+DSb4AhAtZbwPTebXREly/Mbz5SQq3YtmUoJstBkihoN+1bYucR/Jt biIXChp8F8KtaTFZKbj/Si6gTIryHGL0oKyFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xXBwhAWFyZTnycYkR+RnDMCvIWMxGBUvL3KMoQKECbo5p+ou3kVDNhtqkC4r1Ozbl+ 35MvE4asYEmUKM54hu4U4T9c/aJyZCSRgqhVpo78AgZcPyqYXsnoC5F5wIf7WEZisWvi +7Z3Mtu1Quva62s3ZyU2RY8GGe97QkIKYXTAY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.146.18 with SMTP id y18mr4782830ebn.55.1252502213662; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:16:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52a782220909090509r3053209dw2fcfe445118866ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8376@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> <52a782220909090509r3053209dw2fcfe445118866ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 23:16:53 +1000 Message-ID: <85c354a20909090616r13d420c1q269c05ea2a5c2039@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners From: Ross Ogilvie To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a8b0869aa3047324e55e X-archive-position: 2264 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: oges007@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --001636c5a8b0869aa3047324e55e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Could you suggest for us Alexandre a more suitable pair of examples (or even several pairs)? Then we could all practice our lojban, as would be appropriate on the lojban beginners mailing list. As to the use of {facki} to describe what Columbus did to the Americas, I don't believe it necessarily implies that he was the first to do so. Even in English I might discover something already known to others. I vaguely remember that part of the book, but I haven't manage to find it again just now, so you might be right. mu'o mi'e ros. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Alexandre Dezotti < dezotti.alexandre@gmail.com> wrote: > >Now,I have to ask the question: Don't you have something productive to do > instead of >thinking up meaningless changes to other people's hard work? > > this is about cultural fact and not only personnal work. > Indeed this is productive in view of social relationships, that you > have not yet understood. > > > > --001636c5a8b0869aa3047324e55e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could you suggest for us Alexandre a more suitable pair of examples (or eve= n several pairs)? Then we could all practice our lojban, as would be approp= riate on the lojban beginners mailing list.

As to the use of {facki}= to describe what Columbus did to the Americas, I don't believe it nece= ssarily implies that he was the first to do so. Even in English I might dis= cover something already known to others. I vaguely remember that part of th= e book, but I haven't manage to find it again just now, so you might be= right.

mu'o mi'e ros.

On Wed, Sep 9,= 2009 at 10:09 PM, Alexandre Dezotti <dezotti.alexandre@gmail.com> w= rote:
>Now,I have to ask the question: Don't you have something productiv= e to do instead of >thinking up meaningless changes to other people'= s hard work?

this is about cultural fact and not only personnal work.
Indeed this is productive in view of social relationships, that you
have not yet understood.




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