From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 09 07:15:18 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlNx8-0006al-3D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:15:18 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlNwy-0006Wv-0I for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:15:17 -0700 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so3156053fxm.34 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:15:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SjdDcFM6PGtvTO8YARTac9W7wmD5O/3828PcXdmAPi8=; b=Vnk2NZ4myq1OgHd9+FAkazk370xVAzNhDiPTSEcUXZKxtXG+MgVrUeizKzc6DTE5CF rsoTokvUF2p47jTF+4q2dg4BSW2gmJsHFnZ2HishO7A/zN4ucC7s5qH4PX+0K6XIzERn c8h6fzbD/58mlxfBSTRs8FwfaaxzxTyGfsGtg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c382orUKpoCjmhQLj0k2XFmoZRbCe63zAgKs6llmRGp9ksQ6Mu1sLPrupanPfIbOtG 7rNuZa2br3D0VyClDfNp6g6VuDg1UorBC12XDe3Iwi/kMdsRYTTou0spovfOa0Y27G4m PnBdcaVbKsX3fDpfp8eQhbExjT0hFIKm4gbhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.15 with SMTP id 15mr311091fap.97.1252505700994; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8379@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8379@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:15:00 +0200 Message-ID: <52a782220909090715l1d9204bfy78d8ab0028991b38@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners From: Alexandre Dezotti To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2268 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dezotti.alexandre@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners People might not be offended by other asking for changes to what they feel as personal work for public use. Publicity implies debate at least. What is demeaning is having always the same examples. It's not diminishing sexism in any way, on the contrary, sexism is a fact of the whole society and not just a personal choice. One cannot just say "well, you could think yourself about some woman carrying a piano", this kind of behaviour just tries to deny the public acceptance and the innate sexism nature of the society. The aim is not making people fuzzy inside, it is rather avoiding to perpetuate the sexism in the minds within our cultural expressions.