From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 10 10:11:01 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlnAj-0005uP-DA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:11:01 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f204.google.com ([209.85.211.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlnAg-0005tq-AM for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:11:01 -0700 Received: by ywh42 with SMTP id 42so441706ywh.30 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=puUHxBghfp2seyd/TAvNNmsf0RwLFEUJPUYiWBzmd5s=; b=csH/aPPcqb3M4I+v2P4ZVnlOIK8oJ0leyi+rcv6oIjkGY8mnuheOJmRaFRIWogEG7y FZqJRVWkZYdXq2AO9ea8WsXij2XsiHoHsHfKCdIHxbTFz82MGz2tIYG/it2r0OvCJLaX sHnIG78Qm797YNcJ52/u5mDaylVQkhmP9HjTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EYIf1kom9C73qq3burmTcG7I28OmhPQV9Wb/MjC3rl5Qt1iaSQqJpS81nc5JgeVgI6 2CS5GyUIEy/2R1YYnLdgfflNQExArrMtOigGnDEhC+aRmG+BBO1WiJzqvP3ZLdJSnmBQ lVsCcfeahXJ4yRh2GJcs7Lry0IoNX9eUB67PA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.81.6 with SMTP id e6mr3052304ybb.295.1252602651881; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:10:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560909100948m252a3e8blf2d4989f3b199787@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909100844p3ec611a9hc8ee25e22b68175d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909100948m252a3e8blf2d4989f3b199787@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:10:51 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909101010j57bdbc72xd3a4975394fb418e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: kecti From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5632e1c37d304733c48da X-archive-position: 2296 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --000e0cd5632e1c37d304733c48da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable right, but jbovlaste says "pity / feel sorry for". Given the "pity" could one really confuse it for "I feel pity for having done something"? Maybe the word "being" instead of "person" so as to show that this doesn't necessarily have to be a human being? 2009/9/10 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > Why does the x2 of {kecti} need to be a person? Can I not feel pity fo= r > a > > dog? > > "x1 is sorry for x2" would be ambiguous, it could mean "is sorry for > someone" or "is sorry for having done something". The "(person)" is > just to clarify that it is the first meaning. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > --000e0cd5632e1c37d304733c48da Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable right, but jbovlaste says "pity / feel sorry for".=A0 Given the &= quot;pity" could one really confuse it for "I feel pity for havin= g done something"?

Maybe the word "being" instead of = "person" so as to show that this doesn't necessarily have to = be a human being?

2009/9/10 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why does the x2 of {kecti} need to be a person?=A0 Can I not feel pity= for a
> dog?

"x1 is sorry for x2" would be ambiguous, it could mean &quo= t;is sorry for
someone" or "is sorry for having done something". The "= (person)" is
just to clarify that it is the first meaning.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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