From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 14 06:18:40 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MnBS1-0007AY-MO for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:18:38 -0700 Received: from cluster-f.mailcontrol.com ([85.115.62.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MnBRv-0007AN-RJ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:18:37 -0700 Received: from aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk (aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk [195.188.21.21]) by rly07f.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id n8EDIQC8000405 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:18:28 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA353D.D5818D48" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Watch out! Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:18:22 +0100 Message-ID: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED83A0@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Watch out! Thread-Index: Aco1PQUJSlnkeiIuQa6mUJKpIu3K0gAAByiQ From: "Michael Eaton" To: X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-06-00-00 (www.mailcontrol.com) on 10.70.0.117 X-archive-position: 2323 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA353D.D5818D48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From a purely practical standpoint, as opposed to a linguistic one, surely = something that could be shouted loudly and quickly, ideally a single syllab= le, would be preferable. {ckape} would be a good, if overly dramatic, choic= e. -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lo= jban.org]On Behalf Of james riley Sent: 14 September 2009 14:11 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Watch out! sisti - STOP! 2009/9/14 tijlan < jbotijlan@gmail.com> 2009/9/14 < MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com>: > In a message dated 9/13/2009 23:11:58 Eastern Daylight Time, > phma@phma.optus.nu writes: > > > On Sunday 13 September 2009 21:19:47 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> Suppose you want to give someone an immediate warning. >> For example, he is about to carelessly step on the pavement >> and be hit by an oncoming car. {e'unai} seems to weak. It is, >> after all, only a suggestion not to do something. What should >> you shout? > > o'i! I sometimes say ",o'i .urci" when I see a poison ivy plant - not that > anyone around understands that. > > > Or "o'isai"/"o'icai" for more emphasis. > > stevo "o'i" doesn't really have a vocative, warning sense, does it? I've heard about the experimental, imperative attitudinal "dai'o". "o'idai'o" would mean "Feel caution!". Generally i would prefer the observative "karce". That way i would be able to suggest (or be suggested of, if i'm the one carelessly stepping on the pavement) the actual object of caution at which to look. That's probably more effectual and life-saving ;) than "o'i" or "o'icai", which tells about nothing other than the emotion of the onlooker. mu'o mi'e tijlan http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as par= t of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. =20 Click here t= o report this email as spam. http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as par= t of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. ***************************************************************************= ***See the Blackpool You Tube video aimed at attracting French visitors by = clicking this link http://www.visitblackpool.com/jetaime ******************= ************************************************************ ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA353D.D5818D48 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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sisti - STOP!

2009/9/14 tijlan <= jbotijlan@gmail.com>
2009/9/14=20  <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.c= om>:
"o'i" doesn= 't=20 really have a vocative, warning sense, does it?

I've heard about= the=20 experimental, imperative attitudinal "dai'o".
"o'idai'o" would mean = "Feel=20 caution!".

Generally i would prefer the observative "karce". Tha= t way=20 i would be
able to suggest (or be suggested of, if i'm the one=20 carelessly
stepping on the pavement) the actual object of caution at= =20 which to
look. That's probably more effectual and life-saving ;) tha= n=20 "o'i" or
"o'icai", which tells about nothing other than the emotion = of=20 the
onlooker.

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