From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 19 05:43:03 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MozHK-0000g1-Rd for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:43:03 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com ([209.85.220.225]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MozHG-0000fH-SL for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:43:02 -0700 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so1286047fxm.0 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:42:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sQ7CQjwsZlzAN6/U3vbuNu2AhNZz7itGFm162SAsFdg=; b=Rybq0gKrQpjQTVhcAP5m7hvUSNT+t2qVtqdtH82L50SlvTDNqHQylH5i2GzglxE8e+ KplJiIEmtxJbydiuqCk8mcLpXknhGUXyys2jk0lLiMuS2XdgNG+xSZKVkgTawh0MAGMt rPQZJcwWSi5iTNo/zBMVQs91QZ4aBfrPqE0XQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qndG6U2fd+cocDyBHVF/reCGW68FjDy4cjRbhunr09OCIc3REcdTixEOqnJo1jOKC+ +LqhUjNEg1SINbFeMAYZ/SsdIMX0GYWB/a06SVIH7Zit9O5/YW6gu3W9KTJ28/KalhCW cLnZ+DiuZ7JV1g8WVHaLvQ7uQKNVDPJiOE5MY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.143.79 with SMTP id t15mr634060fau.13.1253364172234; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:42:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909190746.10598.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <9ada8ecd0909190422y6984784eq8c0ed33df8199b84@mail.gmail.com> <200909190746.10598.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:42:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e1268d0e5f3b80b0 Message-ID: <4de8c3930909190542q3fde1353ib37419797f9da046@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: only From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 2388 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/9/19 Pierre Abbat : > On Saturday 19 September 2009 07:22:51 Squark Rabinovich wrote: >> Hey everyone! >> >> How do you translate "only" to *lojban*? > > "only" is "po'o", which follows the word it modifies. > >> For instance, how would you translate the following sentences: >> *do fanva di'e la lojban. la gliban. ma* >> >> "Only John went to the moon" > la djan. po'o klama le lunra Could the English not also mean "The only case is that John went to the moon.", which would translate to "po'o la djan. klama le lunra", where "po'o" modifies the implicit ".i" and thus the whole sentence? >> "Only John and Jane went to the moon" > la djan. e la djein. po'o klama le lunra Wouldn't that Lojban mean "The only person who accompanied John in going to the moon was Jane"? That is: da .e [de] po'o broda = da .e fu'e po'o de fu'o broda rather than [da .e de] po'o broda = fu'e po'o da .e de fu'o broda mu'o mi'e tijlan