From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 02 11:40:31 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtn3O-0003Jx-S2 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:40:31 -0700 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.145]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtn3F-0003Ix-W0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:40:30 -0700 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so248132eyh.36 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pCHPy6HY1oGi5WogTMGoDVQB+aJ4OIAFwvqgU/yH5dM=; b=rAkuai45/dCoj7dQrWFY4NUY7rqgvp79Xu1PtWKYatR/tFk97ZCrYySNrhB36ja3RH R91ThfwI3XZgtKozrQ8pNTV54xx7K05IVvCp3oLtp5P8BalRKkVVtbSX9DKj4TnAnuva C5lWYLjgXM7TYaSYnlGsKM44ZU4NZEHCHFl0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oiipUg6b5do8fLM3N8DPT7K7YiNqMHASIyRhwUnnP8YiVMO54kml+zW0/lWgHaqqAb X5N4u6/yO8tsRp78tlz+vuvaW3JD4AJg2XW4BQBS9wpwGrm62eTUAayksQPi3EuC3xKj afiUCXbXoqbCE+eEkL6iHqnQjheX+EB6Uk744= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.128.11 with SMTP id f11mr10021363ebn.62.1254508505192; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:35:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300910021127r211c7409h4a5eb7643e6f40b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300910021127r211c7409h4a5eb7643e6f40b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:35:05 -0400 Message-ID: <8a20e9f70910021135h3e32de81l1612879f24ac5248@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: using 'se' in conversation From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ce0fd1ded00474f80572 X-archive-position: 2431 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --00504502ce0fd1ded00474f80572 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {.i mi viska lo se gleki} - if you absolutely need gleki as the main selbri= , then {lo se viska ku se gleki mi}. The first example will work fine. The second might not, as gleki2 is a state or event. Though I suppose technically you can see those... {.i mi viska lo se citka} - nothing wrong with this. mu'o mi'e .kribacr. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I *think* that the first one is ok, although I would tend to say {da poi > mi viska cu xamgu}. {xamgu} is good. {gleki} is happy. > > likewise, I *think* that the second one is ok, but again, I would find it > more natural to say {mi viska da poi citka ke'a} > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ryan Leach wrote: > >> Are these how I would say the following >> 1. What I see is good >> 2. I see what is eaten >> >> 1. le mi se viska cu gleki >> 2. mi viska le se citka >> >> If not please advise. >> >> -- >> =93Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes >> of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.=94 >> -Tim Ferriss >> >> >> >> > --00504502ce0fd1ded00474f80572 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {.i mi viska lo se gleki} - if you absolutely need gleki as the main selbri= , then {lo se viska ku se gleki mi}. The first example will work fine. The = second might not, as gleki2 is a state or event. Though I suppose technical= ly you can see those...

{.i mi viska lo se citka} - nothing wrong with this.

mu'o mi= 'e .kribacr.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2= :27 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
I think th= at the first one is ok, although I would tend to say {da poi mi viska cu xa= mgu}.=A0 {xamgu} is good.=A0 {gleki} is happy.

likewise, I think that the second one is ok, but again, I would = find it more natural to say {mi viska da poi citka ke'a}


On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ryan Leach <= span dir=3D"ltr"><rsw.leach@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these how I would say the following
1. What I see is good
2. I see what is eaten

1. le mi se viska cu gleki
2. mi viska le se citka

If not please advise.

--
=93Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes
of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.=94
-Tim Ferriss





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