From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 02 20:04:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtuuq-0006Lt-MT for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:04:12 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f186.google.com ([209.85.212.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtuuk-0006LA-KX for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:04:12 -0700 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so1478352vws.2 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:04:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=V4jdTEvid/m+78jBrtxbLiNwqYLYSy03ouL2tkyDLe8=; b=k2moazQSnHlS46YEjN6ONMP2dU5Yb+z5+1GesJZBnl+aeXdZ8sGucY8gOttNladeNl YkPj5PZQTik+48pE0Hr1jOQU6sdbVb0P2xq/Th5EgWeCW1OoXSDw0hT7nzCcPjtl27V/ HRgeJFJF2+WFkF2SjeqqVg397/KnmGa5OjWwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=cxopJTD3goq0vC9uu8I6oqNUkXJkLUTun7wKnCLpc2+XlhpP/px+xtwnQMqx6PnJly KYn+wwCJZCyb1XykPBOr/iPo90hoVWrMpGUr8kDAcmatFsKw0MwfDpk9KAMySWvdNmGy 8TOCa8p5PrexWYMtxe4E2E1CQH+srZjCDxpvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.108.164 with SMTP id f36mr6025898vcp.25.1254539040078; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:04:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> From: Oren Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:03:40 +0800 Message-ID: <27513e550910022003g4c4bb780s8c36f55c805feba0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: using 'se' in conversation To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f899b2dd73b8b0474ff21ae X-archive-position: 2438 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: get.oren@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --00c09f899b2dd73b8b0474ff21ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2 follow-up questions: .i li re ranji preti (?) 1) what uses does "mi se viska" have, if any? 2) here's my stab at some related translations: 'what was seen, was liked' (intentionally no 'see-er') .i le se viska cu se nelci 'i've never seen something i haven't liked' (there exists no thing, such that (i have seen it) and (i do not like it)) .i na kanxe du'u se pu viska be mi du'u na se nelci be mi ...I'm sure I'm off on the second one. I think my attempt says: "It is not true that both something I have seen and something I haven't liked" On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 02:20, Ryan Leach wrote: > Are these how I would say the following > 1. What I see is good > 2. I see what is eaten > > 1. le mi se viska cu gleki > 2. mi viska le se citka > > If not please advise. > > -- > =E2=80=9CNothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mist= akes > of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.=E2=80=9D > -Tim Ferriss > > > > --=20 =E7=99=BD=E6=9D=BE - Oren Robinson +86-15810101944 --00c09f899b2dd73b8b0474ff21ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2 follow-up questions:
.i li re ranji preti (?)

1) what uses does= "mi se viska" have, if any?

2) here's my stab at some= related translations:

'what was seen, was liked' (intention= ally no 'see-er')
.i le se viska cu se nelci

'i've never seen something i have= n't liked'
(there exists no thing, such that (i have seen it) an= d (i do not like it))
.i na kanxe du'u se pu viska be mi du'u na= se nelci be mi

...I'm sure I'm off on the second one. I think my attempt says:=
"It is not true that both something I have seen and something I ha= ven't liked"

On Sat, Oct 3, 200= 9 at 02:20, Ryan Leach <rsw.leach@gmail.com> wrote:
Are these how I w= ould say the following
1. What I see is good
2. I see what is eaten

1. le mi se viska cu gleki
2. mi viska le se citka

If not please advise.

--
=E2=80=9CNothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistak= es
of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.=E2=80=9D
-Tim Ferriss






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