From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 19 21:56:41 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N06m1-00008u-Eq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:56:41 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N06lw-00008Y-Bk for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:56:41 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091020045629334.VMXA12118@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:56:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D033D27B2 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:56:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yoda quote Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:56:25 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <200910180906.52373.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7f1d42860910192134g7ee88df4i96326127cdb05f8b@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300910192146i644677f7u239e7e55ddcf40d9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5715b9300910192146i644677f7u239e7e55ddcf40d9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910200056.26933.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 2461 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tuesday 20 October 2009 00:46:11 Luke Bergen wrote: > see I understood yoda to be saying "you either do, or do not do. 'trying' > is an illusion". As in, you either do what you intend to do, or you do > not, there is no such thing as "try". That's how I too understand it. That's why I said "troci na'i". Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci