From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Oct 20 08:24:50 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N0GZu-0004xD-DL for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:24:50 -0700 Received: from cluster-b.mailcontrol.com ([85.115.56.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N0GZo-0004wb-L4 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:24:50 -0700 Received: from aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk (aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk [195.188.21.21]) by rly21b.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id n9KFOPZ8001667 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:24:34 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA5199.6BB58D88" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yoda quote Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:24:31 +0100 Message-ID: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D3822C1A86D@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yoda quote Thread-Index: AcpRmO2UpWFagXtwTjC9Nfyo19AzYAAAFHYg From: "Michael Eaton" To: X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-09-22-01 (www.mailcontrol.com) on 10.66.0.131 X-archive-position: 2464 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA5199.6BB58D88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "you think that you are 'trying' but in reality, you have already decided i= nternally whether you will succeed or fail. In this way you do not 'try' y= ou merely do, or do not do. Therefore, choose to do".=20 =20 ...yeah, I prefer the way Yoda says it, I'll be honest ;0) =20 -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lo= jban.org]On Behalf Of Luke Bergen Sent: 20 October 2009 16:19 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yoda quote As in, "you think that you are 'trying' but in reality, you have already de= cided internally whether you will succeed or fail. In this way you do not = 'try' you merely do, or do not do. Therefore, choose to do". Sounds like some hippy power-of-positive-thinking bullshit, but consider wh= en star wars came out. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Ryan Leach < rsw.leach@gmail.com> wrote: Okay I could see that. I have to ask a question though. What does it mean for trying to be an illusion? On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Pierre Abbat < phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 October 2009 00:46:11 Luke Bergen wrote: >> see I understood yoda to be saying "you either do, or do not do. 'tryin= g' >> is an illusion". As in, you either do what you intend to do, or you do >> not, there is no such thing as "try". > > That's how I too understand it. That's why I said "troci na'i". > > Pierre > -- > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci > > > > -- =93Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.=94 -Tim Ferriss http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as par= t of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. =20 Click here t= o report this email as spam. http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as par= t of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. ***************************************************************************= ***See the Blackpool You Tube video aimed at attracting French visitors by = clicking this link http://www.visitblackpool.com/jetaime ******************= ************************************************************ ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA5199.6BB58D88 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "you think that you are 'trying' but in reality, you have already dec= ided=20 internally whether you will succeed or fail.  In this way you do not '= try'=20 you merely do, or do not do.  Therefore, choose to do".
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...yeah, I prefer the way Yoda says it, I'll be honest=20 ;0)
 
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As in, "you think that you are 'trying' but in= =20 reality, you have already decided internally whether you will succeed or= =20 fail.  In this way you do not 'try' you merely do, or do not do.&nbs= p;=20 Therefore, choose to do".

Sounds like some hippy=20 power-of-positive-thinking bullshit, but consider when star wars came=20 out.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Ryan Leach=20 <rsw.leach@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
Okay=20 I could see that. I have to ask a question though. What does it
mean= for=20 trying to be an illusion?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Pierre Abbat <<= A=20 href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:>=20 On Tuesday 20 October 2009 00:46:11 Luke Bergen wrote:
>> see = I=20 understood yoda to be saying "you either do, or do not do.=20  'trying'
>> is an illusion".  As in, you either do = what=20 you intend to do, or you do
>> not, there is no such thing as= =20 "try".
>
> That's how I too understand it. That's why I sai= d=20 "troci na'i".
>
> Pierre
> --
> li ze te'a ci v= u'u=20 ci bi'e te'a mu du
> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u=20 ci
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