From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Oct 20 20:07:09 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N0RXY-0004fc-GU for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:09 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N0RXS-0004eH-P5 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:08 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so7121880ewy.0 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:06:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xFR6M0j6IM73LffzbvI4Mp6Icl6BUszyPHhXECvvdQA=; b=OriFGv0+gv7UGaHYj/Ka8ciS+DLFE5FvtLS74c/ZMBkLTzO9QSOrWNaG8H31dTIHV/ DZhNMlmLNBKO9Wo7P9f7U6NbTZXdY/cyf1KhlhCtpjvvjwRufFyDBsHeFIHfN5mHSdbI r341OCd9YOqCVspwn+W5uPY/a7jY4GRF+0IYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TvSjXsT763atl2Oz4moxVAfmB64g33EkrG931n5OdiubsMgkBFc11544ZC/+Kr3i+Y I1A2scCQUsJcJBbit27tRT3jDiPAW3SKb9FMcjmMyHMU2D/fnq5f0D4p4M1UDxwipE1U hED5j4tGFcmLVWZgJ2KKw/qqv7ghBMTge+Dmg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.195 with SMTP id w45mr663783wee.82.1256094416013; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:06:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7f1d42860910201959o1e21dd3di87abe0a9a11d2ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <200910180906.52373.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7f1d42860910192134g7ee88df4i96326127cdb05f8b@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300910192146i644677f7u239e7e55ddcf40d9@mail.gmail.com> <200910200056.26933.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560910201013p78ee280ew7ba30e7829359734@mail.gmail.com> <7f1d42860910201959w63426517x6d9ac2f450839879@mail.gmail.com> <7f1d42860910201959o1e21dd3di87abe0a9a11d2ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:06:55 -0700 Message-ID: <7f1d42860910202006l3223e43y7546edfac94ed9b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yoda quote From: Ryan Leach To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2469 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rsw.leach@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hmm, I don't think I used the right modal connective there. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Ryan Leach wrote: > scratch that, I should probably have use the imperative. > > pu do cuxna ki'u ko na troci > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Ryan Leach wrote: >> What about this then? >> >> pu do cuxna ki'u do na troci >> >> 2009/10/20 Jorge Llambías : >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 20 October 2009 00:46:11 Luke Bergen wrote: >>>>> see I understood yoda to be saying "you either do, or do not do.  'trying' >>>>> is an illusion".  As in, you either do what you intend to do, or you do >>>>> not, there is no such thing as "try". >>>> >>>> That's how I too understand it. That's why I said "troci na'i". >>> >>> Yes, definitely. >>> >>> Here's another, somewhat more cryptic version: >>> >>> .ai .ainai .a'ina'i >>> Will, won't, no "I'll try". >>> >>> Whether Yoda says "troci na'i" or ".a'i na'i" will depend on what Luke >>> said before. if Luke says "je'e mi ba troci", Yoda would respond >>> "troci na'i", if Luke says "je'e .a'i", Yoda would say ".a'i na'i". >>> >>> mu'o mi'e xorxes >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> “Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes >> of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.” >> -Tim Ferriss >> > > > > -- > “Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes > of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.” > -Tim Ferriss > -- “Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.” -Tim Ferriss