From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 01 01:26:31 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Vle-0003tz-Ag for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:26:31 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4VlY-0003sA-OW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:26:29 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so159089ewy.0 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:26:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NB43ELMsnFV5wrgXMVpkTBjalyMCg9HomYGKG5lHy64=; b=t5Si5kxZSCb8ZPRXPrS2mP5yXELZNAHuAGuoe0a2Dh4S/vP3qOCWmgcW+DDfv3GilC /C+i/dGazl3FScxi2AEzySavFvncpu7nngPFRl7dAaPqfYaP2hSxML4aPyvs12WZi73z 8yPDBBrEtSR+14961qYMO6jAuXTRkUC3CVed4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eM/HVYhbSS1WTi5lsfrBv7eCp1Rp4G9VnNc9e9mXKfsf5WyMMWsluw06n/A0U4OltN 59mgKaG0g8swXX8/qiF5zCNfNk7M7bwEzor6dckCw8fjFiG46qKZiJ5kyP6KNsDa4AnX XeP4nqD2Odf3MZFocVDDbfEFgWrciYh4wJaDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.81 with SMTP id x59mr2647229wee.147.1257063978211; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7f1d42860910202255k1c380239l9f51bb55d45b6b80@mail.gmail.com> References: <200910180906.52373.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7f1d42860910201959o1e21dd3di87abe0a9a11d2ab@mail.gmail.com> <7f1d42860910202006l3223e43y7546edfac94ed9b9@mail.gmail.com> <200910202344.59039.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7f1d42860910202255k1c380239l9f51bb55d45b6b80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:26:18 -0700 Message-ID: <7f1d42860911010126g41609efcu952832f81d199705@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yoda quote From: Ryan Leach To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2512 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rsw.leach@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Going back to this conversation briefly, but leaving aside the proper interpretation of what Yoda meant. Does anyone see a problem with the grammar of this utterance? do zukte jonai troci you act or try (but not both) .i xu le jufra cu snada does this succeed? On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ryan Leach wrote: > Hmm what I was going for was more like this: > > you already chose, do not try > > maybe like this...? > > .i do pu cuxna .i ko na troci > > is that closer, do you think? > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> On Tuesday 20 October 2009 23:06:55 Ryan Leach wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Ryan Leach wrote: >>> > scratch that, I should probably have use the imperative. >>> > >>> > pu do cuxna ki'u ko na troci >>> >>> Hmm, I don't think I used the right modal connective there. >> >> Doesn't parse. It's equivalent to "pu do zo'e cuxna ki'u ko zo'e na troci", >> which means "before you (something) chooses because of you (something) >> doesn't try". If you place "i" before "ki'u", it parses, but doesn't make >> much sense. >> >> Pierre >> -- >> li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du >> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > “Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes > of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.” > -Tim Ferriss > -- “Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.” -Tim Ferriss