From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 01 06:02:11 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4b0U-00049L-QA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:02:10 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4b0N-00043x-Bk for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:02:10 -0800 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091101140156641.UIBA9287@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887573EA9 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:01:55 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: crazy thing for a friend Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:01:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <7f1d42860911010115m3b9e6768n9c7f3bac94bdf5b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f1d42860911010115m3b9e6768n9c7f3bac94bdf5b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200911010901.51815.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 2517 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sunday 01 November 2009 03:15:41 Ryan Leach wrote: > .i mi nupre ja'i lemi cmene .e lemi ciblu .e le cemlanzu If "blood" means relatedness, that's "jgina", not "ciblu". > .i mi na cesri'isi'a lo cevni .e lo lijda .e lo nobli .e lo prenu .e lo > dacti .i mi zuksi'a .ije bandu le ze rorlei flalu That means you won't worship all of them, but you could worship some of them and it would still be true. How about this?: .i nu'e mi camsi'a no noltru ja cevni .e no speni ja rorci .e no remna ja danlu .e no selsidbo dacti "le ze rorlei flalu" means "the seven generation-laws", not "the seven-generation law". I think the right word is "roryrapli". "le roryrapli be fi li ze be'o flalu" is rather wordy, so how about "le zemei roryrapli flalu"? > .i mi na nolpre jamna lo prenu .e lo danlu .e lo spati .ije mi roroi > fapro lo nolpre jamna I think something with "finti" is better than "nobli". We invent lots of things, as different from traditional peoples who live the same way their ancestors did. How about "snefi'i"? Or "tcefi'i"? .i nu'e mi na jamna tai tu'a le snefi'i .i mi fapro ro snefi'i nunjamna poi mi penmi > .i mi na bapli nu lo prenu cu pilno le mi friji'etadji .i le pamei > drani tadji cu to'e zasti "pamei drani tadji" means a method that is singularly right, not a single right method. .i nu'e mi na bapli lo nu lo drata cu pilno le mi mivliftadji .i mi sinma le si'o so'i mivliftadji cu drani mu'omi'e .pier. -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko