From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 01 07:23:42 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4cHN-0007Ik-1z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:23:41 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4cHF-0007B9-E3 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:23:40 -0800 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so5446307bwz.26 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:23:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cODHpTmhCBfbn50zTbOyVHxXgOzXC4Jkun9/OCwD/+c=; b=cwLkxT3/JvCRr1DxQzDZeEh1ONa9BAvs4dfw+1O8EOVQIX+8/sF2qQrZE5yXtO+ATF HvfH0ft2o24i9rViX/bshKV9isxBeRb9fQwEyhCU/k2Nboy4BjD4lV1CKeKu3gjm1wSC bymnFDCGdI3RaVXVMf9PmTG7CKaenkiHH/pKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ppOzDUt+48axxOa2qnm73fSxavT7rokIxlH+vUSVnMDeqEI+XN1n2dVBihKekkeIvO BvFl8tQmTSc03ls++pjUv25tjXDzvbb9KFR+qyx6ob1mQ0lOKRSrAe0HGUv3+qGquR1E LLY0qEN7nEOrRVmhHJm5PSHENJJyC5LYoCnoc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.214 with SMTP id 22mr588705fas.34.1257089006477; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:23:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911010901.51815.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <7f1d42860911010115m3b9e6768n9c7f3bac94bdf5b@mail.gmail.com> <200911010901.51815.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:23:26 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a662806289eb37b8 Message-ID: <4de8c3930911010723nd18f292qf57b21a38a70776a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: crazy thing for a friend From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 2519 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/11/1 Pierre Abbat : > I think the right word is "roryrapli". "le roryrapli > be fi li ze be'o flalu" is rather wordy, so how about "le zemei roryrapli > flalu"? I guess the number in "the Seven Generation Law" is not meant cardinal but ordinal, related to the ecological concept of "seven generation sustainability, which is about working "for the benefit of the seventh generation into the future": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_generation_sustainability "generation" in this instance is not a fasnu (which is what the x1 of "rapli" is) but a communal entity. >> .i mi na nolpre jamna lo prenu .e lo danlu .e lo spati .ije mi roroi >> fapro lo nolpre jamna > > I think something with "finti" is better than "nobli". We invent lots of > things, as different from traditional peoples who live the same way their > ancestors did. How about "snefi'i"? Or "tcefi'i"? Alternatively, you could further specify the type of our invention with "gundi". Maybe "gudyfi'i". mu'o