From eyeonus@gmail.com Thu Dec 03 16:03:43 2009 Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLe6-0007fo-5x; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:03:43 -0800 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1115267ewy.11 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:03:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6WeTafbz146xvhyqAwwnQUFkSVXKJ9BCt7L6z2QKViM=; b=GZXOR2C8ejdU0o/Hxvr6qv85mtC6nj62wwt2nkI+u7CC9SYuLdjrZErUlw3s5pL+r2 TE20U0IfJc5Sk/lV7Rs3BTO40c/rUknyLc0ICwh3TNygZl1gN0hnGWrbUrQ2Q3W1SVYA y5wpdxVWdWB1iDZSNy6CHoUImFxRzeBGypexA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kO00/FI7ar/grlS51EsYrZATMrvMqI8fYzfFnSBQI05Yp/TFzhmYyX4YT8OK/2vzUv wLXRBsDXllP34C5kCqs0yV6bTwfpqLimL0Je7DCGvER+55Zr3ed5WbtPHhaIW81U02Eh M4RFfClumhW5B1q0sY+tZTWJ8bqZdbbwkbGtc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.130 with SMTP id u2mr702085wee.135.1259885011491; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:03:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912031552q7f7fb0a1y5f8b8b9f05049b7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031552q7f7fb0a1y5f8b8b9f05049b7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:03:31 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df0912031603s73c24458iac02ab02720b2893@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64082915c860479dbd6c7 --0016e6d64082915c860479dbd6c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Addendum the second: Apparently, I have to invite people for collaboration, which requires that any one that wishes to collaborate needs to either be following me or be enrolled in a goal I created, so if you wish to, do one of those and I'll invite you to collaborate. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the lesson > to provide an example of what the entries would look like. > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > >> I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to >> discuss this with rodo. >> >> First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete the >> lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do know it's >> possible. >> >> Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, that >> being, which entry method would be better for learners? >> >> 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: >> >> Item: >> text: klama >> translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 >> >> 2) Individual, i.e.: >> >> Item: >> text: lo klama >> translation: A traveller >> >> Item: >> text: lo se klama >> translation: A traveller's origin >> >> Item: >> text: lo te klama >> translation: A traveller's destination >> >> Item: >> text: lo ve klama >> translation: A route travelled >> >> Item: >> text: lo xe klama >> translation: A method of travelling >> >> 3) Both 1 and 2. >> >> Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly >> pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things >> exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that >> learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each >> contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one >> person be selected to do all the audio? >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d64082915c860479dbd6c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Addendum the second: Apparently, I have to invite people for collaboration,= which requires that any one that wishes to collaborate needs to either be = following me or be enrolled in a goal I created, so if you wish to, do one = of those and I'll invite you to collaborate.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jon "To= p Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the less= on to provide an example of what the entries would look like.


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 = at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I've decided = to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to discuss this with= rodo.

First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete = the lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do = know it's possible.

Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, th= at being, which entry method would be better for learners?

1) All-in= clusive, i.e.:

Item:
text: klama
translation: x1 travels to x2= from x3 via route x4 by means of x5

2) Individual, i.e.:

Item:
text: lo klama
translation: A t= raveller

Item:
text: lo se klama
translation: A traveller'= s origin

Item:
text: lo te klama
translation: A traveller's destination

Item:
text: lo ve klama
translation: A route travelled

Item:
text: lo xe klama
translation: A method of travelling

3) Both 1 and 2.

Lastly, = seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly pronounce = Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things exactly as Lo= jban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that learners hear = the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each contributor record= the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one person be select= ed to do all the audio?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le = bende pe denpa bu




--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.= e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu




--
mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
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