From eyeonus@gmail.com Thu Dec 03 16:09:15 2009 Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLjS-0000hl-Lh; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:09:15 -0800 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1119671ewy.11 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:09:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kGX+fUQzNvmdtwjzQcjDYcOYQvck3RlEmOx/Ah+Yn+k=; b=yCWEt77MvW51vS9flti0Rax6G5g0mOsjUzm4wd5kwY4yZAZ1R4ID1JUOfI/p+b4PVj erErvsydOPwhC15w+EkyxTsfZK59IjVEw4GzV7339jJgRGDKdauCtg54sSgnLrA3VjEi awe3g0JI50nXEIEqFXZ+KvHcdsYCXgVkYkrmw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=neyiAoKrrbbJc3SFLdBDik3UGiQhHmC0LHb4fRpk61UuDsT2SHaiVjMCmqPe6lxg1w QClA7Q5xMaEPGs/GiWdM2LIpnEEBbdR/fo+N9MJii9RpdN09lGKfWlpz1k3izzyihck6 PJrcOf0M1OB6RGCkCTfpaBQcsACeuVq/p/Kgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.10 with SMTP id g10mr788101wef.217.1259885343908; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:09:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912031603s73c24458iac02ab02720b2893@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031552q7f7fb0a1y5f8b8b9f05049b7d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031603s73c24458iac02ab02720b2893@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:09:03 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df0912031609q2f0c62fdt758f426476f6a124@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77e3c61a5b00479dbea9a --0016e6d77e3c61a5b00479dbea9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Addendum the third: Direct link to the lesson: http://smart.fm/goals/179543 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > Addendum the second: Apparently, I have to invite people for collaboration, > which requires that any one that wishes to collaborate needs to either be > following me or be enrolled in a goal I created, so if you wish to, do one > of those and I'll invite you to collaborate. > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > >> Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the lesson >> to provide an example of what the entries would look like. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: >> >>> I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to >>> discuss this with rodo. >>> >>> First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete the >>> lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do know it's >>> possible. >>> >>> Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, that >>> being, which entry method would be better for learners? >>> >>> 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: >>> >>> Item: >>> text: klama >>> translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 >>> >>> 2) Individual, i.e.: >>> >>> Item: >>> text: lo klama >>> translation: A traveller >>> >>> Item: >>> text: lo se klama >>> translation: A traveller's origin >>> >>> Item: >>> text: lo te klama >>> translation: A traveller's destination >>> >>> Item: >>> text: lo ve klama >>> translation: A route travelled >>> >>> Item: >>> text: lo xe klama >>> translation: A method of travelling >>> >>> 3) Both 1 and 2. >>> >>> Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly >>> pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things >>> exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that >>> learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each >>> contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one >>> person be selected to do all the audio? >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d77e3c61a5b00479dbea9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Addendum the third: Direct link to the lesson: http://smart.fm/goals/179543

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Addendum the seco= nd: Apparently, I have to invite people for collaboration, which requires t= hat any one that wishes to collaborate needs to either be following me or b= e enrolled in a goal I created, so if you wish to, do one of those and I= 9;ll invite you to collaborate.


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jon "To= p Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the less= on to provide an example of what the entries would look like.


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, J= on "Top Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I've decided = to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to discuss this with= rodo.

First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete = the lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do = know it's possible.

Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, th= at being, which entry method would be better for learners?

1) All-in= clusive, i.e.:

Item:
text: klama
translation: x1 travels to x2= from x3 via route x4 by means of x5

2) Individual, i.e.:

Item:
text: lo klama
translation: A t= raveller

Item:
text: lo se klama
translation: A traveller'= s origin

Item:
text: lo te klama
translation: A traveller's destination

Item:
text: lo ve klama
translation: A route travelled

Item:
text: lo xe klama
translation: A method of travelling

3) Both 1 and 2.

Lastly, = seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly pronounce = Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things exactly as Lo= jban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that learners hear = the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each contributor record= the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one person be select= ed to do all the audio?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le = bende pe denpa bu




--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko kl= ama le bende pe denpa bu




--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a&#= 39;o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu




--
mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
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