From eyeonus@gmail.com Fri Dec 04 20:59:31 2009 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGmju-0005hQ-Al for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:59:31 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 13so38574eye.36 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:59:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5s2ZlypEwqAxX9MetoyymPkS5Vo9fZTTFf7pewYRquo=; b=FOOvPOShzJx9BxCQuUIwoETCsXYDL8mEJ5lgLIifittkCPpDCy5ZQhlgkvZbMn3HY8 htPHIRoEGGeBFWk0kq5jZ4rdd3aoh9wkYGJQd2NkTZyjhvNzS86KYW4H3dBXPZDM+QpF Dy0lW1yGGs7kI5fhZC7EBMuDhesEswXbmPrYQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vxQ127jePKYHdGxZJbs+dJBqud78NFbn/gQNtmi4Pzu+yH4AmfLsCKV/BTzNEB8dNJ edk/jemtiICSrf9fBPy6r+21DKeHHEdU0b8yVdVhfA1HPdkwvkXre98CzAOm8NtQvlVe cMATMSehy8guOaxDogpRKMabXRobw8Fm4eLTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.138 with SMTP id c10mr1317832wef.47.1259989164654; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:59:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <249d5b950912041919j6b9a4c7eo10c92fb5ad26d100@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031603s73c24458iac02ab02720b2893@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031609q2f0c62fdt758f426476f6a124@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031907x30c53216hcaeb3ae9d72eafe4@mail.gmail.com> <4643bbcd0912031948l3cb8acb1t2c6f11d198a56306@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912032225i35a35f07h2d7eb6db24644300@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912041158p7bd04c95pda723a2e69ce595a@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912041634o31e73850m7e73b3694a2888f2@mail.gmail.com> <249d5b950912041919j6b9a4c7eo10c92fb5ad26d100@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:59:24 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df0912042059g4194ea1dxd4c04f18e01a1f8b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2dbb9480780479f416e9 --0016e6db2dbb9480780479f416e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The point to recording them is because the Smart.fm "speaks" the words in it's learning programs, and the computer voice mispronounces the words, since Lojban's pronunciation differs from English. As such, it is necessary to record audio of the words being pronounced correctly so that people learning Lojban using the Smart.fm lessons learn their pronunciation. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Steven Lytle wrote: > I don't see any point to recording all the gismu and their arguments in > this way. Once the sounds and some representative words using those sounds > have been learned, the whole language is accessible. I think you're wasting > your time and effort, but they're yours to waste. > OTOH, if you're doing it because you like to, then more power to you. > > stevo > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > >> Just as an update, I've managed to get through the gismu list to baxso, >> included all the sumti (as in , , ) for each of >> the gismu. That equates to 32 gismu and 87 sumti so far. Seeing as my butt >> really hurts from sitting in this chair for so long, I'm taking a break for >> today- I'll see about getting through another 32 or so gismu tomorrow. >> >> None but the first two- bacru lo bacru lo se bacru, and badri lo badri lo >> se badri- have audio recorded for them, so if you are using any of the >> lessons, don't pay attention to the computer voice- it's guaranteed to >> pronounce them worngly. >> >> I would very much appreciate any contributions any of you care to make, >> either by helping make the individual items- which requires typing each one >> in, BY HAND, or submitting audio for the gismu. The more work I have to do >> myself, the longer it's going to take, and I would really like to have this >> finished before 2011. >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: >> >>> The all-inclusive lesson can >>> be subscribed to right now, but it only has 6 entries so far. The other two >>> have two and four items respectively, and Smart.fm requires a minimum of 5 >>> items to be able to subscribe to it. As more entries are made, however, >>> they'll be able to be subscribed to as well. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Leon wrote: >>> >>>> This is great. I've been using smart.fm after hearing about it on this >>>> mailing list. It's a fantastic resource. >>>> I noticed the site is still a little buggy since I had trouble >>>> subscribing to one of the Lojban modules. I hope i can subscribe to this >>>> one. >>>> >>>> Leon. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6db2dbb9480780479f416e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The point to recording them is because the Smart.fm "speaks" the = words in it's learning programs, and the computer voice mispronounces t= he words, since Lojban's pronunciation differs from English. As such, i= t is necessary to record audio of the words being pronounced correctly so t= hat people learning Lojban using the Smart.fm lessons learn their pronuncia= tion.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Steven Lytle= <lytlesw@gmail.c= om> wrote:
I don't see any point to recording all the gismu and their argumen= ts in this way. Once the sounds and some representative words using those s= ounds have been learned, the whole language is accessible. I think you'= re wasting your time and effort, but they're yours to waste.
OTOH, if you're doing it because you like to, then more power to y= ou.
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stevo

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Jon "Top Ha= t" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Just as an update= , I've managed to get through the gismu list to baxso, included all the= sumti (as in <baxso>, <lo baso>, <lo se baxso>) for each= of the gismu. That equates to 32 gismu and 87 sumti so far. Seeing as my b= utt really hurts from sitting in this chair for so long, I'm taking a b= reak for today- I'll see about getting through another 32 or so gismu t= omorrow.

None but the first two- bacru lo bacru lo se bacru, and badri lo badri = lo se badri- have audio recorded for them, so if you are using any of the l= essons, don't pay attention to the computer voice- it's guaranteed = to pronounce them worngly.

I would very much appreciate any contributions any of you care to make,= either by helping make the individual items- which requires typing each on= e in, BY HAND, or submitting audio for the gismu. The more work I have to d= o myself, the longer it's going to take, and I would really like to hav= e this finished before 2011.=20


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jon "Top Ha= t" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
The all-inclusive lesson can be subscribed to right now, but it only has 6 entries so far. = The other two have two and four items respectively, and Smart.fm requires a= minimum of 5 items to be able to subscribe to it. As more entries are made= , however, they'll be able to be subscribed to as well.=20 --
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mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

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