From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Sun Dec 06 08:19:07 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.210.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHJp8-0007HH-1s for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:19:06 -0800 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so91353yxe.28 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:18:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JwhGGH/vqlqm68maW+w3ZMx5ZyrynwlREcvsdf+p428=; b=lQvJykUMXATF/Sdy3hJ+8I91DQnxeJOJGYcJ9+SCmZS0GICryWH1qLqgM5fVUuW2Ft xSmEOXsehhjXVsOlNBtUDpewGLciJDnGKIB9uMzZiVvtX9ocvIUBy1r+uBZhdwkqyddC xq/X+RJum7tQA/Wd48diK4J6J/f+oD/2Ohspg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ahjnM9meocWWPryAQojeAuBoZwhG+odhFG/irzVAbTK+ywYjRNrPT0gQsFgG+A4ewl lkFrAZWGoVqWKFmJPVkEtyqIrVA2YzV6/bNaoESqVI1qMVqFP5iGbLQhM5VYsQAGkgkK kLjzgWLrCaFfGQLXDwdX3mVM/1Z0fLxIZlE28= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.179.12 with SMTP id b12mr9452137ybf.156.1260116335923; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:18:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <249d5b950912041919j6b9a4c7eo10c92fb5ad26d100@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031603s73c24458iac02ab02720b2893@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031609q2f0c62fdt758f426476f6a124@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031907x30c53216hcaeb3ae9d72eafe4@mail.gmail.com> <4643bbcd0912031948l3cb8acb1t2c6f11d198a56306@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912032225i35a35f07h2d7eb6db24644300@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912041158p7bd04c95pda723a2e69ce595a@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912041634o31e73850m7e73b3694a2888f2@mail.gmail.com> <249d5b950912041919j6b9a4c7eo10c92fb5ad26d100@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:18:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Steven, There is good reason that language learning often -- or perhaps even usually -- involves audio. The human ear is important to the learning pattern of many people, particularly for language. It is not for the purpose of correct pronunciation, but as an aid to memorization using the brain's audio channel. -Eppcott On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Steven Lytle wrote: > I don't see any point to recording all the gismu and their arguments in this > way. Once the sounds and some representative words using those sounds have > been learned, the whole language is accessible. I think you're wasting your > time and effort, but they're yours to waste. > OTOH, if you're doing it because you like to, then more power to you. > > stevo > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones > wrote: >> >> Just as an update, I've managed to get through the gismu list to baxso, >> included all the sumti (as in , , ) for each of >> the gismu. That equates to 32 gismu and 87 sumti so far. Seeing as my butt >> really hurts from sitting in this chair for so long, I'm taking a break for >> today- I'll see about getting through another 32 or so gismu tomorrow. >> >> None but the first two- bacru lo bacru lo se bacru, and badri lo badri lo >> se badri- have audio recorded for them, so if you are using any of the >> lessons, don't pay attention to the computer voice- it's guaranteed to >> pronounce them worngly. >> >> I would very much appreciate any contributions any of you care to make, >> either by helping make the individual items- which requires typing each one >> in, BY HAND, or submitting audio for the gismu. The more work I have to do >> myself, the longer it's going to take, and I would really like to have this >> finished before 2011. >> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >> wrote: >>> >>> The all-inclusive lesson can be subscribed to right now, but it only has >>> 6 entries so far. The other two have two and four items respectively, and >>> Smart.fm requires a minimum of 5 items to be able to subscribe to it. As >>> more entries are made, however, they'll be able to be subscribed to as well. >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Leon wrote: >>>> >>>> This is great. I've been using smart.fm after hearing about it on this >>>> mailing list. It's a fantastic resource. >>>> I noticed the site is still a little buggy since I had trouble >>>> subscribing to one of the Lojban modules. I hope i can subscribe to this >>>> one. >>>> >>>> Leon. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> > >