From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Thu Jan 21 14:03:02 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f177.google.com ([209.85.211.177]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NY57D-0003uX-La for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:03:02 -0800 Received: by ywh7 with SMTP id 7so437645ywh.24 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:02:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YodoeWiJn5SsxU6gOnlOXJnS1DE1UqMCxhF4HWRfGrw=; b=vfrSCVO0eW74eaWtmqfRt250omwZIgvkVzvBOM7MTvH1DgJUgm6BtsoYx7jcTD1vBJ 7QVqWVtYtOCR+D4pGOuoS2zxh4aiTHseKp9ufhEp8G4v7iPkM1Ut4Of5cikZPh4BY6rA ZxYlNNniL6SFQP0nt+nIzCwt1deh6xHk+Miwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qu5mFBdO5Dpgq+Q65b/yEVEia2zk6Y5FHLCyIxDx/Dgei6ItgDDhI+BxQ1phtJ0CcN j2/9tMgxvuJdAXWS8hqre0D22CqXdQh6d8C95+K2932SqEJ5CIr24+lHK5OQfAgS5CTN xoQ1cCAnyJvuh4EqL9aWlqItYHjeubFFggwac= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.252.3 with SMTP id z3mr3006218ybh.62.1264111373037; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:02:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B585AB50200002700019194@gwia.messiah.edu> References: <4B585AB50200002700019194@gwia.messiah.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:02:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Introduction From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zachary, welcome! Thanks for joining the list. I see Jorge has answered your question. Keep learning and let us know if you get stuck! -Matt On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Zachary Felix wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am a junior in High School, and I have been trying to learn Lojban for = the fun of it recently. I have a friend (a sophmore) with whom I am trying= learn, and it is quite fun. I have been using the "What is Lojban?" book = to learn, for the most part. We haven't really gotten very far, but there = are a couple questions he asked me that I was not positive on from reading = the book, and so I thought I'd ask people who know better... I only have o= ne as of now, but I'm sure I'll have more questions later... > > What is the difference between the contradictory negation "na" and the sc= alar negation "na'e"? According to the book, "na" is saying that the selbr= i-relation is false, and "na'e" is saying "other-than", but how are these r= eally different? The only conclusion I came to was that "na'e" is meaning = that something else is true, though I think for most cases they would have = relatively similar meanings... > > Anyway, just thought I'd introduce myself and see if I could get any help= ... if anyone can clear up the matter, I would appreciate it, or if anyone= has any tips for learning... > > Thanks in advance, > Zaq Felix > > > >